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Why so many aluminum fixies versus steel frame?

Old 02-11-12, 11:22 PM
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my fixed gear is alu, and road bike is steel. the fixed gear is a 61cm langster and ive always hated how flexy it is torsionally. also the long seatpost (from compact geo) doesnt help the vertical stiffness. that said, i love the bike to death because ive given it hell and it always keeps me going, and its light as ****. the flexibility makes it hard to say alu is too stiff though, but the springy-long seatpost makes me want more stiffness (aka non-compact geo).
the road bike is a steel allez. the first year i rode it stock, then this last year i upgraded to the rival group and aksiums. i would definitely enjoy the bike to be lighter, but the durability and somewhat stiff ride keep me riding it. its a balance of strength and flexibility that count..

theres a fine line of balance to consider with steel vs alu; some of my opinions follow the expectation for each material, yet others hop the line and make no sense

if its a deciding factor, you have to look at the +/- of each and what will make you happy. i can say there are at least 5+ frames i would take for FG, but definitely not for road; and opposite similarly
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im genuinely contemplating getting that leader steel frame off retrogression. been looking for a cheaper frame and so far as i can tell, its better quality than pake and other competitors at that price point

steel is real, no clue why any commuter/nonracer would choose carbon or aluminum b/c of ride quality or durability issues.

with that said, if youre riding on the track i can see why aluminum is advantageous. youre not going to be encountering bumps and stuff like you would on the street.
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Old 02-12-12, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hobbes View Post
Aluminum's cheap
Yes.

and easy to weld
No, not easier than steel.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
I'd go this route if I was lookin' for a new lugged steel frame for riding fixed:

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aluminum is stiff, track bikes need stiffness
steel is comfortable and resilient and can be fixed by nearly anyone with a torch, so it's good for touring bikes and bikes you use around town
carbon is light and can be engineered to be stiff or compliant depending on the fibers, so while it's very expensive to make it good, it can be made very, very good while remaining very, very light which makes it good for forks race bikes and road bikes.

which is why i have an aluminum track bike, steel tour and cx bikes, and an aluminum road bike(because i can't afford good carbon)


That said the difference between good, wide tires and cheap 23c's in terms of ride quality is wider to me than the difference between cheap aluminum and relatively expensive steel(853) so the whole "you should ride steel only" viewpoint is a little myopic to me.
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...[B]I bought my first fixie 3 years ago a Masi Speciale Limited...
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Oh young grasshopper, know your bikes....know your bikes!


"The Fixed Ultimate is exactly that, a ULTIMATE�. We start with Reynolds 525 tubing mated beautifully to elegant lugs and a vintage-inspired graphics package. The parts mix is thoroughly modern, but with a very classic feel. The ride is nothing short of incredible, fully capitalizing on the excellent qualities of the Reynolds tubing. If ride quality, elegance and refinement are important to you, there is only one Ultimate selection."

https://www.masibikes.com/bikes/fixed...-ultimate-2012
sorry, not quite right...

you stated that you bought a masi speciale limited, not a fixed ultimate, 3 years ago & then you linked to a 2012 model. if i'm not mistaken, the ultimate fixed masi came out in 2010 (which if i have my math correct works out to 2 years ago, right?) so unless you also have a time machine you could not have bought one of those 3 years ago.

so my friend...it appears that it is you who needs to know your bikes, or else learn to get your story straight when you are trying to show off.

but it's all good...i am headed out the door for a ride on my lugged steel bike now.

have fun & good luck...
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whoa scrod, you can post empty posts???
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Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
sorry, not quite right...

you stated that you bought a masi speciale limited, not a fixed ultimate, 3 years ago & then you linked to a 2012 model. if i'm not mistaken, the ultimate fixed masi came out in 2010 (which if i have my math correct works out to 2 years ago, right?) so unless you also have a time machine you could not have bought one of those 3 years ago.

so my friend...it appears that it is you who needs to know your bikes, or else learn to get your story straight when you are trying to show off.

but it's all good...i am headed out the door for a ride on my lugged steel bike now.

have fun & good luck...
I stand humbly corrected it was indeed a 2010. I will now flog myself. Not sure where the "showing off" comment came from though as I was simply explaining my forray into fixes and single speeds. My point was that a ridiculously priced carbon framed carbon belt drive weight weeny bike didn't satisfy me as much as a Masi at nearly 5 times less " employee purchase" cost to me!

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whoa scrod, you can post empty posts???
Derp.
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whoa scrod, you can post empty posts???
All I see is a broken image icon. I think that hotlinking might not work for that website.
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Broken image tag is broken. Oh wellllz.
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Originally Posted by pedalcr8z View Post
I stand humbly corrected it was indeed a 2010. I will now flog myself. Not sure where the "showing off" comment came from though as I was simply explaining my forray into fixes and single speeds. My point was that a ridiculously priced carbon framed carbon belt drive weight weeny bike didn't satisfy me as much as a Masi at nearly 5 times less " employee purchase" cost to me!
Don't worry man that dude trolls everyone. Beware though he might follow you around these forums now hiding under a bridge and waiting to come out. Don't feed him.
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Don't worry man that dude trolls everyone. Beware though he might follow you around these forums now hiding under a bridge and waiting to come out. Don't feed him.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hobbes View Post
Aluminum's cheap and easy to weld. That's why cheap people prefer aluminum bikes: because they're cheap.
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No, not easier than steel.

Easier to machine, though, and doesn't wear out your cutting tools as quickly.
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Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
sorry, not quite right...

you stated that you bought a masi speciale limited, not a fixed ultimate, 3 years ago & then you linked to a 2012 model. if i'm not mistaken, the ultimate fixed masi came out in 2010 (which if i have my math correct works out to 2 years ago, right?) so unless you also have a time machine you could not have bought one of those 3 years ago.

so my friend...it appears that it is you who needs to know your bikes, or else learn to get your story straight when you are trying to show off.

but it's all good...i am headed out the door for a ride on my lugged steel bike now.

have fun & good luck...


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Behold, Scrodzilla, master hotlinker!



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I like my steel frames.
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youre on a roll....
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I am?
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Behold, Scrodzilla, master hotlinker!



He baits trolls, too.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator View Post
I am?
not you, sorry.

Srod and his failed images.

although this post is now irrelevant...
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not you, sorry.

Was going to ask what kind of roll I was on, portuguese or kaiser?
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