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Furyus 02-20-12 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Santaria (Post 13876295)
Start from the beginning, always.

I started today on my first-ever bike build, which will someday be a single-speed sweetie. I have a frame, a fork, a lower steering head bearing cup and a seat clamp. Can't get much more beginning than that.

furyus

Pynchonite 02-20-12 10:37 PM

Don't do it, Donaldmax! I got off cheap on my build, and it still cost > a whole, brand-spankin'-new, fixed gear bike. I am the ghost of your Christmas future, and it is a future without gifts under the tree... or health insurance... or enough coal to heat the gruel...

whitefiretiger 02-21-12 04:20 AM

Just make a suicide fixie from an old road bike. I'll bet you can make one dirt cheap. Heck I helped a guy do this for under $50 counting buying the bike from Craigslist. I did get him to keep the rear break until he gets a real fixed gear hub setup because I didn't want to hear that the gear came lose and he couldn't stop and got hit by a bus

Ready though if your set on doing this why not buy a used working bike you like then replace the drivetrain parts to go fixie. Then change other parts after. It would be a lot easier.
A good place to start would be if you have a local bike kitchen type place. I've gotten amazing parts (wheels, tires, forks, frames, etc) by going to the bike kitchen here and volunteering and or paying the crazy low prices they ask for parts. I built an entire bike this way for $20 and was able to use all tools for free and ask others there for help on making choices and doing stuff that I don't have the physical ability to do (I have physical limitations do to injury)

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

solipsist716 02-21-12 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by whitefiretiger (Post 13878621)
Just don't ever, ever, ever make a suicide fixie from an old road bike. I'll bet you it's the ****tiest idea to have ever crossed your mind.

fiiiixed

Santaria 02-21-12 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by solipsist716 (Post 13878887)
fiiiixed

Seconded.

carleton 02-21-12 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by whitefiretiger (Post 13878621)
Just make a suicide fixie from an old road bike. I'll bet you can make one dirt cheap. Heck I helped a guy do this for under $50 counting buying the bike from Craigslist. I did get him to keep the rear break until he gets a real fixed gear hub setup because I didn't want to hear that the gear came lose and he couldn't stop and got hit by a bus

Ready though if your set on doing this why not buy a used working bike you like then replace the drivetrain parts to go fixie. Then change other parts after. It would be a lot easier.
A good place to start would be if you have a local bike kitchen type place. I've gotten amazing parts (wheels, tires, forks, frames, etc) by going to the bike kitchen here and volunteering and or paying the crazy low prices they ask for parts. I built an entire bike this way for $20 and was able to use all tools for free and ask others there for help on making choices and doing stuff that I don't have the physical ability to do (I have physical limitations do to injury)

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

Why spend good money to make a bad bike?

Build your own 02-21-12 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Santaria (Post 13872180)
Sig-worthy. Even the best "quality" custom builds should be done by mechanics. Even though I know how to put my own stuff together now, it was something I learned by earning my bones sitting in a bike shop having my knuckles cracked, getting dirty, frustrated and having someone there to explain it to me. I did it for free because that was the cost of having an experienced bike mechanic show me. Trust me, I'd rather always have the LBS build up my bikes now that I have some idea of the amount of frustration that goes into finding out that crank you've drooled over for the last six months, saving, eating cans of refried beans and never drinking a beer for had a Q factor that was just a tad too small for your BB, only to have to go and do hours of double-checking to make sure each part not only is what you want, but that it is compatible. I go to my LBS - tell them what I want - they ballpark it for me and if something goes wrong - they're going to fix it.

/caseclosed

Really dude? It's bikes we're talking about. not the inner workings of a flux capacitor.FGSS is as simple as it gets, it's not like building a 15K TT/Tri bike with all internal cable routing and PITA behind the BB brakes.

Scrodzilla 02-21-12 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Build your own (Post 13881775)
Really dude? It's bikes we're talking about. not the inner workings of a flux capacitor.

Chai tea just came out my nose. It kinda stings.

Nagrom_ 02-21-12 09:19 PM

so..... don't do this..... everyone that posted that said they did, and did it for cheap, are liars and cheats.

I did it. I regret it. Knowing what I could have gotten for the cumulative price is absolutely f*cking sickening.

I'm soon going to try and sell my conversion, and tell you the truth, I hope I can sucker someone into paying a third of what I put into the damned thing. Don't get me wrong... I love the bike... Great learning experience... etc, etc... But I'd much rather be cruising around on an FTP....

Sh*t gets real expensive, real fast.

PluperfectArson 02-21-12 11:26 PM

See, I bought a Kilo TT, started swapping **** out as I started riding more and gaining more experience.

Most of the parts I bought for it will probably go on to my new frame whenever I decide to upgrade, but my TT is still running strong.

Jaytron 02-21-12 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 13881969)
so..... don't do this..... everyone that posted that said they did, and did it for cheap, are liars and cheats.

I did it. I regret it. Knowing what I could have gotten for the cumulative price is absolutely f*cking sickening.

I'm soon going to try and sell my conversion, and tell you the truth, I hope I can sucker someone into paying a third of what I put into the damned thing. Don't get me wrong... I love the bike... Great learning experience... etc, etc... But I'd much rather be cruising around on an FTP....

Sh*t gets real expensive, real fast.

Both Jandro and I know this first hand. Our 722 "budget" builds are not budget at all really. Hahahaha

carleton 02-22-12 12:33 AM

Steps in building a bike from scratch:

Step 1: Make a list of the parts you need.
Step 2: Set your budget.
Step 3: Choose your parts.
Step 4: Double your budget.
Step 5: Buy your parts.
Step 6: Add more money.
Step 7: Wait while you order the parts you really need, not the ones you thought you needed.
Step 8: Buy tools and/or pay someone to install stuff for you.
Step 9: Wait.
Step 10: Stop keeping track of your budget as you are all-in now and there's no sense in keeping track because it will just make you mad.
Step 11: Try to convince yourself and everyone else that your custom ride made of mid-grade parts is somehow better than an off-the-shelf bike made of mid-grade parts that cost 30-50% less that you could have had a week after ordering it or the same day from a local shop.



Look, I've done it...several times. Several fixed gears and one high-end road bike. I was particularly pissed at the road bike build that took 2 months even though I had cash in hand. It was a custom Teschner frame that my buddy gave me. I decked it out with full Campy Record/Chorus mix.

After I built it up it looked awesome. Exactly as I imagined. It simply did not handle as nicely as I would have liked. After riding it for about 6 months I happened to test ride (for fun) a Specialized Tarmac...and bought it the same day. Been riding it ever since. I love it.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5012/5...1977c325_z.jpg

Nagrom_ 02-22-12 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 13882525)
Step 11: Try to convince yourself and everyone else that your custom ride made of mid-grade parts is somehow better than an off-the-shelf bike made of mid-grade parts that cost 30-50% less that you could have had a week after ordering it or the same day from a local shop.




After I built it up it looked awesome. Exactly as I imagined. It simply did not handle as nicely as I would have liked. After riding it for about 6 months I happened to test ride (for fun) a Specialized Tarmac...and bought it the same day. Been riding it ever since. I love it.


step 11 is key.

which tarmac is that?

carleton 02-22-12 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 13882527)
step 11 is key.

which tarmac is that?

2010 Comp Double Rival. It's one of the lower-end of the Tarmac line. I've swapped some stuff out since then to dial in my fit and whatnot. I actually put the stock saddle back on. It's pretty good.

Nagrom_ 02-22-12 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 13882553)
2010 Comp Double Rival. It's one of the lower-end of the Tarmac line. I've swapped some stuff out since then to dial in my fit and whatnot. I actually put the stock saddle back on. It's pretty good.

Looks really nice... I'm trying to get my secteur to fit more like a Tarmac...

JDMKidBill 02-22-12 01:42 AM

OP, you can buy my bike. :)

Rootzilla 02-22-12 07:19 AM

Ok, everyone else is saying don't do it. I'd say do it if you have money to burn but:

0.5) Have another bike to ride while you do the following:

1) do A LOT OF research first (especially frame size & fit but also component compatibility etc.)
2) buy 2nd hand as much as you can, have patience to look for bargains, don't just buy the first thing you think will fit your needs
3) even though you're buying 2nd hand, don't buy the cheapest of cheap so you'll be able to re-use the parts you don't end up using later or sell them to recover some of your losses
4) do more research
5) if there's a recycling centre or something similar in your area, you might get some parts from there for next to nothing
6) have patience (lots of)
7) learn how to install and maintain each component

I don't see having to buy tools and learning to use them as an unneccessary expense but rather as an investment to the future that will save money in the long run.

All that said, if you plan buying new frame and new parts, forget about it. Buy a complete and upgrade as necessary. Also, if you're not the least bit mechanically/diy inclined, think twice and then don't do it. If you have to calculate the time you'll spend on the project as an expense, don't do it.

You won't necessarily have the nicest possible bike a a result of this exercise, it'll probably still cost as much/close to as much as a cheap complete and you'll spend hours and hours doing it, but you'll probably learn much more than if you had your bike "a week after ordering it or the same day from a local shop." Plus I think building a bike from used frame/parts is still a good way to learn as you won't be accidentally damaging/destroying (it does happen!) brand new parts.

OTOH, if you didn't have the patience to do the pricing thing Carleton suggested, probably best not do it.

satellitebeach 02-22-12 04:32 PM

We aren't talking about splitting f'ing atoms here. You can do this with a socket set and few extra tools. If you have an older bike, try breaking that one down and putting it back together so you can see where you have questions before you go dumping a bunch of money into this one. Are you wanting to build one out of a vintage frame?

JesusBananas 02-22-12 04:35 PM

I am willing to bet money that OP is either 14 years old or a troll.

Jaytron 02-22-12 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 13882525)
Steps in building a bike from scratch:

Step 1: Make a list of the parts you need.
Step 2: Set your budget.
Step 3: Choose your parts.
Step 4: Double your budget.
Step 5: Buy your parts.
Step 6: Add more money.
Step 7: Wait while you order the parts you really need, not the ones you thought you needed.
Step 8: Buy tools and/or pay someone to install stuff for you.
Step 9: Wait.
Step 10: Stop keeping track of your budget as you are all-in now and there's no sense in keeping track because it will just make you mad.
Step 11: Try to convince yourself and everyone else that your custom ride made of mid-grade parts is somehow better than an off-the-shelf bike made of mid-grade parts that cost 30-50% less that you could have had a week after ordering it or the same day from a local shop.



Look, I've done it...several times. Several fixed gears and one high-end road bike. I was particularly pissed at the road bike build that took 2 months even though I had cash in hand. It was a custom Teschner frame that my buddy gave me. I decked it out with full Campy Record/Chorus mix.

After I built it up it looked awesome. Exactly as I imagined. It simply did not handle as nicely as I would have liked. After riding it for about 6 months I happened to test ride (for fun) a Specialized Tarmac...and bought it the same day. Been riding it ever since. I love it.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5012/5...1977c325_z.jpg

What's the wood in the middle for?

Sherblock 02-22-12 05:29 PM

Probably putting his foot down.

Nagrom_ 02-22-12 05:32 PM

or so he doesn't get sweat on his carpet...

Jaytron 02-22-12 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Sherblock (Post 13885547)
Probably putting his foot down.

You'd think it would be wider if it were for that purpose alone?


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 13885564)
or so he doesn't get sweat on his carpet...

Looks like a garage/stone floor

Retro Grouch 02-22-12 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by JesusBananas (Post 13885296)
I am willing to bet money that OP is either 14 years old.

There's nothing wrong with being 14 that won't fix itself as long as you don't die first.

carleton 02-22-12 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sherblock (Post 13885547)
Probably putting his foot down.

+1

Because the rollers elevate the bike several inches off the ground, it's difficult to mount and dismount the bike without racking yourself. The box is a nice feature. Mine was made by a fellow trackie that is also a furniture maker.

Some higher-end trainers offer them as options, like the TruTrainer:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2138/2...c6dbefb9_z.jpg
http://www.trutrainer.com/products_options.shtml


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