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Thoughts on SS Cyclocross Trend

Old 02-21-12, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Build your own View Post
The downside to eccentric BBs is that a gear change changes the relation of saddle and bb. Adjusting the saddle to the new bb location then changes the saddle/cockpit relation. I'm not that picky but i know people that dial things in to the mm and any change is a big deal for them.
Agreed, but with track ends you have to adjust your brakes and with canti's that can be a pain too. I have an eccentric on my Sycip and I don't notice too much of a saddle change when I change gearing but maybe I'm not that picky. The perfect solution is to angle the track end like horiz dropouts.
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Old 02-22-12, 12:02 AM
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A chain tensioner in 'push-up' mode also works really well, although I have the Surly built for 'pull-down' default so I have to use a couple zip ties against the chain stay for proper tension. You get excellent chain-wrap but swapping a flat rear becomes way more of a headache.

I heard Surly has some tensioners spring-loaded to just run push-up without the ties, though.
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Old 02-22-12, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by andre nickatina View Post
A chain tensioner in 'push-up' mode also works really well, although I have the Surly built for 'pull-down' default so I have to use a couple zip ties against the chain stay for proper tension. You get excellent chain-wrap but swapping a flat rear becomes way more of a headache.

I heard Surly has some tensioners spring-loaded to just run push-up without the ties, though.
Surly Singleators come with two springs, one for push-up and one for push-down mode. They are pre-installed for push-down, but the push-up spring comes with it.

A Paul Melvin, Shimano Alfine tensioner, or some other kind of 2-pulley tensioner would work better for quick gearing changes, as the total capacity of 2-pulley tensioners is greater. If you go up or down more than a tooth or two with a Surly Tensioner, you're going to have to add or remove chain links.
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Old 02-22-12, 09:37 AM
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In my experience I wouldn't use a singulator in push up mode off road. CX can get bumpy and the bumps can lessen your chain tension. When you are out there turning yourself inside out the last thing you want to think about is your chain falling off.
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Old 02-22-12, 10:26 AM
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Had good luck running a Singleator in pushup with bashguard outside and inner dog-tooth over the front. Had I had the clearance, I'd love to just go double bash-guards.

A few seasons ago I did the Singleator as a pull-down with a Paul chainkeeper up front, also great luck keeping the chain on but not so much with keeping the chain engaged around the teeth without skipping (pull-down atmo).

The real problem I had this year, though, was keeping the chain on my 1x10 setup. I lost a few race wins with some choice chain drops running a Paul up front, and switched to the bashguard/dog-tooth deal but had another fluke drop in my last geared race of the season. Gonna return to double ring front with a K-Edge or dogtooth next year to mitigate that (plus I really need all the gears I can get now racing A's in Oregon).
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Old 02-22-12, 10:43 AM
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If you are running a 42 130bcd up front I have several extra bash guards. PM if you are interested.
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Old 02-23-12, 11:17 PM
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This guy considered fixed-gears to be superior for CX racing. In 1921.
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Old 02-23-12, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cynikal View Post
Agreed, but with track ends you have to adjust your brakes and with canti's that can be a pain too. I have an eccentric on my Sycip and I don't notice too much of a saddle change when I change gearing but maybe I'm not that picky. The perfect solution is to angle the track end like horiz dropouts.
semi horizontal dropouts are where it is at for sscx. my bianchi reparto corse conversion requires no saddle or brake adjustments when changing the chain tension or gear ratio. the RD hanger also gives me the option of throwing gears on it if i so desire.


(i know the picture sucks and yes, there is a reason for the chainring setup)
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Old 02-24-12, 12:16 AM
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but if you use qr for flat changes you need to torque it ridiculously to not pull the wheel out on an uphill...
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Old 02-24-12, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
but if you use qr for flat changes you need to torque it ridiculously to not pull the wheel out on an uphill...
i dont use a qr but i am fairly confident a traditional qr skewer will do the job. bikes were raced with semi horizontal dropouts and quick releases for decades. i dont think there was much of an issue until manufactures started producing skewers with external cams and flexible materials. these may be fine with vertical dropouts but are not suited in bikes with track end or dropouts like pictured.

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Old 02-24-12, 09:57 AM
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^ I agree. I've used good QR skewers with good results.
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Old 02-24-12, 10:59 AM
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The famous Wildcat Rock Machine blogger puts the whole current cyclocross popularity situation to hipster choice of the moment. Fixed gear has signed with major label and thus sold out. I would not start riding cyclocross unless you're a hipster or if you are a hipster (in denial) you can come up with all the great [lame] reasons to ride cyclocross.
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Old 02-24-12, 11:12 AM
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I thought it was the guys in the orange overalls who sold out single speeds years ago. Wildcat is just trying to keep up but he is on the wrong coast.
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Old 02-24-12, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by broakland View Post
The famous Wildcat Rock Machine blogger puts the whole current cyclocross popularity situation to hipster choice of the moment. Fixed gear has signed with major label and thus sold out. I would not start riding cyclocross unless you're a hipster or if you are a hipster (in denial) you can come up with all the great [lame] reasons to ride cyclocross.
what a simplistically inane way to look at it
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who gives a f*** if fixed gear and cyclocross has sold out... imo the more people ride bikes the better... it raises the bar of the sport and brings more attention to the topic!

Jeez the raleigh hodala looks like an absolut AWESOME sscx frame... full carbon and s***
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hodala are definitely the party frat of cx. they will end your ****.

and they're faster than you, too.

they've called out my team for next season, so it's time for me to train so i can put up or shut up. well, actually the whole point of my team is to be the counter balance to that. it's kind of like we're the weird kid in gym class playing with his jock strap in the corner, flapping his arms holding random protective gear with his forehead pressed into the wall... calling us out is like calling out ralph wiggum.
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Old 02-24-12, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by broakland View Post
The famous Wildcat Rock Machine blogger puts the whole current cyclocross popularity situation to hipster choice of the moment. Fixed gear has signed with major label and thus sold out. I would not start riding cyclocross unless you're a hipster or if you are a hipster (in denial) you can come up with all the great [lame] reasons to ride cyclocross.
and where does it put me if I've done it for the last 3 years?
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Originally Posted by broakland View Post
The famous Wildcat Rock Machine blogger puts the whole current cyclocross popularity situation to hipster choice of the moment. Fixed gear has signed with major label and thus sold out. I would not start riding cyclocross unless you're a hipster or if you are a hipster (in denial) you can come up with all the great [lame] reasons to ride cyclocross.
Really? Who gives a ****? CX and all the other kinds of riding have been around for a long time and will naturally increase and decrease in popularity. Everything is about hipsters, right? I rode my touring bike on some fire roads and now I want a CX bike because it was fun and I want to be able to go faster


Of course, this makes him a hipster. Into CX before CX was cool, man.
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touring bikes on fire roads? that's the real hip ****. you guys been to tarckbike lately?
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Old 02-26-12, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
semi horizontal dropouts are where it is at for sscx. my bianchi reparto corse conversion requires no saddle or brake adjustments when changing the chain tension or gear ratio. the RD hanger also gives me the option of throwing gears on it if i so desire.

(i know the picture sucks and yes, there is a reason for the chainring setup)
Yep, I have a volpe conversion and love it partly for the same reason. I use Shimano skewers and have no problems at all with the wheel shifting in races or any other time.

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