Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Should I play it safe with frame size or will that get me in trouble?

Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Should I play it safe with frame size or will that get me in trouble?

Old 02-29-12, 03:28 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Should I play it safe with frame size or will that get me in trouble?

I am 5'10, but have a larger torso so my legs aren't long. They aren't short either, but I hope you get the point. I did a rough measurement of my inseam and it was about 30-31 inches without shoes on.

With what I see online I should be riding a 55-56 (from my height), but closer to a 53 with my inseam so I have the 1-2 inch of spacing.

In the end will I be ok going with a 53 to be safe or will that cause issues?

The frames I have been looking at are the Pista Super / Unknown lv2 / 735/25.

I hope this isn't a repeat question. I tried to look at the guides, but they all were related to height or varied depending on the bike geometry in whole.

Thank you for the advice.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 02-29-12, 03:30 PM
  #2  
Your cog is slipping.
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Liked 100 Times in 58 Posts
In before Jaytron's fit calculator.
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 02-29-12, 03:39 PM
  #3  
Brown Bear, Sqrl Hunter
 
Jaytron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,244

Bikes: CAAD 10 4, Dolan DF4, Fuji Track Classic

Liked 27 Times in 15 Posts
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
In before Jaytron's fit calculator.
Damn it, you're quick.


FITMENT QUESTION?



>>>FITMENT CALCULATOR<<<


FWIW, you sound like a similar build to me. Short limbs, long torso. I should be on a 56 if you went by my height. I'm on a 54cm roadie. Depending on the frame geo, you'll have to figure out your fitment based on your calculator results.
Jaytron is offline  
Old 02-29-12, 03:40 PM
  #4  
Fakenger
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 177

Bikes: Yo Eddy Team, Serotta Colorado II

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Proper frame fit is a lot more than just looking at standover height... just sayin
fxdgrjedi is offline  
Old 02-29-12, 04:12 PM
  #5  
Elitist
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,965
Liked 93 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by Jaytron
Damn it, you're quick.


FITMENT QUESTION?



>>>FITMENT CALCULATOR<<<


FWIW, you sound like a similar build to me. Short limbs, long torso. I should be on a 56 if you went by my height. I'm on a 54cm roadie. Depending on the frame geo, you'll have to figure out your fitment based on your calculator results.
ALWAYS in his clipboard.
CTL+V
Post Quick Reply
...
Profit
carleton is offline  
Old 02-29-12, 04:21 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Liked 3,110 Times in 1,418 Posts
Similar to me. My best fitting bike is a 53 cm ST, 55 cm TT. I usually settle on a 54cm, but I've also had, and been quite comfortable with,everything between 52 and 56.
caloso is offline  
Old 03-01-12, 11:02 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Competitive Fit
The Eddy Fit
The French Fit
Seat tube range c-c 48.5 - 49.0 49.7 - 50.2 51.4 - 51.9
Seat tube range c-t 50.0 - 50.5 51.2 - 51.7 52.9 - 53.4
Top tube length 53.3 - 53.7 53.3 - 53.7 54.5 - 54.9
Stem Length 10.7 - 11.3 9.6 - 10.2 9.8 - 10.4
BB-Saddle Position 63.9 - 65.9 63.1 - 65.1 61.4 - 63.4
Saddle-Handlebar 50.7 - 51.3 51.5 - 52.1 53.2 - 53.8
Saddle Setback 2.9 - 3.3 4.1 - 4.5 3.6 - 4.0

These were my numbers. I also was thinking the eddie fit might be best for me. At least until I get more comfortable riding again.

Also I am strongly leaning towards the 725 or 735. I like the style of that frame a lot. It's more than just looks for me, but I do want to enjoy the ascetics of what I am riding if you know what I mean.

Next is to find what to put around the frame. Damn it's been way too long since I looked into this S.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 12:15 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Also my half a brain is leaning towards the 735 + i806TR

There is a set on ebay 'new' free shipping for $600 should I jump or wait for a better deal or buy new?
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 12:52 AM
  #9  
:)
 
Muffin Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,420

Bikes: Cannondale CAAD12, Specialized Rockhopper, Norco Fluid FS1

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
kilo tt
Muffin Man is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 06:40 AM
  #10  
Seņor Member
 
broakland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Oakland
Posts: 267

Bikes: Fixie

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No matter how good the frame looks: you will not be riding it much if it is uncomfortable. Believe me! Get the size that will fit you well. Besides, even if the frame is a bit ugly: you will Learn to love it. Much like you will marry that ugly girl because she has always been there for you. The well fitting bicycle will always be right there in your right hand and the ugly girl in the left.

Or you can go the pretty girl route and deal with her heroin addiction, crappy posture and back cramps

Last edited by broakland; 03-02-12 at 06:41 AM. Reason: cant spell :\
broakland is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 10:04 AM
  #11  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I usually settle on a 54cm, but I've also had, and been quite comfortable with
Douglas2012 is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 10:57 AM
  #12  
GMJ
Would you just look at it
 
GMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,554

Bikes: good ones.

Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Get sized proper at a bike shop.

Take info and buy online to save money if you want to be a skeet ass. Buy from the shop that sized you if you want bike shops to stay open in your area.
GMJ is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 01:52 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Bought a BD bike. One of the screws I tried fitting into the frame snapped off because the bike was threaded poorly. Called BD and they said (in short) that sucks too bad. Sold that **** and got a peugeot bike that was a little small for me, but felt much more solid. Thus why I am looking to build a bike up this time from scratch.

Not saying BD is horrible, but way overhyped IMHO.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 02:14 PM
  #14  
Elitist
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,965
Liked 93 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by Humenbean
Bought a BD bike. One of the screws I tried fitting into the frame snapped off because the bike was threaded poorly. Called BD and they said (in short) that sucks too bad. Sold that **** and got a peugeot bike that was a little small for me, but felt much more solid. Thus why I am looking to build a bike up this time from scratch.

Not saying BD is horrible, but way overhyped IMHO.
Why not go to a bike shop?

I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with online mail-order.
carleton is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 02:52 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by carleton
Why not go to a bike shop?

I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with online mail-order.
Nobody is obsessed with mail-order. And your question to properly answer would take a several page essay. I'll try to summarize my personal experience.

In order to be treated like a valued customer, you must purchase everything from them, or act like you just moved to the area as to avoid the 'why didn't you buy from us?' If you don't they treat you like some pos trash who doesn't care about their business and can go **** off.

Maintenance is insanely high. On average you are looking at $125 to $200 an hour when you break down the time spent vs. the price. If they paid their shop employees more than $12 an hour I could understand that price. So in all reality I'm paying some shop owner $140 an hour after he pays his employee (per rack.)

I hate ordering stuff like bike parts online, but if it's going to save me money and help me avoid some ******** at the local shop I'll do it. Maybe your lbs is different, but mine is quite the opposite. It's more like free-masons where in order to be treated well you have to pay for it.

The system is backwards and things are changing. Most companies don't want to adapt and be more progressive, they'd rather ***** about people buying stuff online and be rude to customers who don't buy everything down to the overpriced energy bars and socks from them. It was the same way when I worked for camera stores. Everyone *****ed because people were buying stuff online, and most sales associates would blow off people they were familiar with or knew didn't buy everything from the store. I think that's crap.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 03:04 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
walnutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ATX
Posts: 637

Bikes: CO-OP ADV 3.1 aka Beeftank (stolen, RIP), State All-Road

Liked 144 Times in 75 Posts
Originally Posted by carleton
Why not go to a bike shop?

I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with online mail-order.
Because money.
walnutz is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 03:14 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
mazdaspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: WA state
Posts: 4,809
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
53 will probably be too small, if you're actually 5'10 look at a 54-55 IMO
mazdaspeed is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 03:34 PM
  #18  
Elitist
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,965
Liked 93 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by walnutz
Because money.
How much money does it cost to buy a new frame when one's first frame doesn't fit properly?

Buying online only serves the person who knows exactly what they want. If one doesn't know exactly what they want, it is best to "try before you buy."
carleton is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 03:40 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by carleton
How much money does it cost to buy a new frame when one's first frame doesn't fit properly?

Buying online only serves the person who knows exactly what they want. If one doesn't know exactly what they want, it is best to "try before you buy."
This only makes sense for complete bikes that the lbs carries. Nothing else applies.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 03:43 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
walnutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ATX
Posts: 637

Bikes: CO-OP ADV 3.1 aka Beeftank (stolen, RIP), State All-Road

Liked 144 Times in 75 Posts
Originally Posted by carleton
How much money does it cost to buy a new frame when one's first frame doesn't fit properly?

Buying online only serves the person who knows exactly what they want. If one doesn't know exactly what they want, it is best to "try before you buy."
I get that, but people are willing to gamble if it can save them some cheddar. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
walnutz is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 05:24 PM
  #21  
Elitist
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,965
Liked 93 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by Humenbean
This only makes sense for complete bikes that the lbs carries. Nothing else applies.
Really?

What about shoes, clothing, and helmets? "Gee...do I need a medium or large in that?" "Am I size 45 or 46 in Sidi? What about Shimano?" "Is it a 'European' large or an 'American' large?"

What about stems and saddles which you can try before you buy? So you can get the length and angle right or the right saddle for you butt.

What about handlebars which you can feel the shape of before you buy? Do you know what width you'd like?

What about over-the-counter replacements of warranty parts? "It's not worth mailing back an $8 chain breaker. But it would be worth it to get a replacement next time I'm in the shop."

"Man...what does that grip tape feel like?"


See where I'm going with this?

If you guys don't support your local bike shops, they will go out of business.

Last edited by carleton; 03-02-12 at 05:35 PM.
carleton is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 06:11 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You're taking it to the extreme. I'm talking about building a bike not shoes.

As for other parts at the lbs, they usually only carry things that make them a good profit margin. Salesman always push stuff that has a higher profit for the store. The practice of selling me something I don't need because of a higher profit is not acceptable. You act like the LBS has even 5% of what is available online, and that's even a stretch.

Worst scenario possible with buying a seat / shirt / etc online? I buy it, it sucks, I go to ups.com and print a return label and pay a few bucks to have it shipped back.

Worst scenario with a lbs? I am left with too little options and settle for something I am not happy with because they don't have options. Pay sales tax and in store markups that easily outweighs shipping in my area.

I feel like you are not seeing the forest for the trees. The only way your argument would be valid is if the LBS had an amazing selection, super friendly staff, competitive prices and no hassle returns. If they don't have those things it's not even remotely comparable to buying a seat, riding it, finding out you don't like it and returning it. All at the cost (cheaper cost mind you) return shipping.
Humenbean is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 07:09 PM
  #23  
GMJ
Would you just look at it
 
GMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,554

Bikes: good ones.

Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Hey you're right. Stand outside of the store and tell everyone that walks by that the internet has a better selection, better people on the phones, amazing prices, and will RMA the **** out of everything. That'll show your ****ty shop. They should've known better.

Sucks that your LBS is that bad. A&M and Big Shark have great people working here and the prices are not even 10% more than what I find online. I prefer interacting with people, in person, when it comes to bike equipment because I value a shop's opinion. The shops around here support local races and events, all of which would not be possible if they were not around.

I'm willing to pay the extra. If you gotta be a cheap little ***** about this, then so be it. Buy your stupid frame, **** up, and then buy another.

Oh wait.......
GMJ is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 08:04 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
Jandro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,059
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Carleton and GMJ are 100% correct here. Go to an LBS if you aren't sure what you want. They know the internet exists and (most of the time) they will try to be as accommodating as they can be with prices. Most shops have warranty programs, the employees spend time helping your through the sale (and remember time = $), you get what you want and, more importantly, what fits your specific tastes/needs.

Also, where the hell did the 200$ figure come from? I have NEVER paid an LBS over ~80$ for 'maintenance' (I think you meant 'labor'). The only exception to that would be if you got a professional fit (which is worth every penny). If you are asserting that you pay a couple hundred bucks more for the bike (a difference of ~200$) and that isn't worth it to get a personal shopping experience where you can try stuff out, then please do just go online and get a ****ty-fitting frame. We will be here to laugh at you when you come back crying.

Support your LBS. Seriously, because of people like you, LBS's go out of business which makes it hard for people like me, who depend on, and enjoy them.
__________________
Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.
Jandro is offline  
Old 03-02-12, 08:17 PM
  #25  
Still kicking.
 
Dannihilator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
Posts: 19,659

Bikes: Bike Count: Rising.

Liked 47 Times in 33 Posts
For myself, I go by the Eddy which is for a 54cm.
__________________
Appreciate the old bikes more than the new.
Dannihilator is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.