Anyone ever try a Flying Pigeon?
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Wonder if this guy ever finished his.
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Speaking of skinwall tires. There have been a handful of pro roadies rollin' skinwall last couple of years but I haven't seen skinwall @ MTB race in forever. Then, there I was watching some coverage of UCI XCO in South Africa and bam:
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Looks cool.
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Rivendell bombadil :
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We have a NICE 1969 Sports in green for $175 where I work. Fake leather seatbag and real leather Brooks saddle in pretty good shape. No enclosed chain on the Sports, but...
Not trying to sell it as we don't ship, post is only as an example. You can get garage sale Sports for nice prices still if you're diligent.
Not trying to sell it as we don't ship, post is only as an example. You can get garage sale Sports for nice prices still if you're diligent.
Edit: oh, wait, that's a Sports. It's just Raleigh's version of the typical 3-speed. It's not the roadster model with the shallow steering angle and long wheelbase.
Those are pleasant bikes but they're not that uncommon.
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I've ridden this bike.
I travel a lot for work internationally, including the developing world. I've ridden this bike in Africa - in both Kenya and the DRC. Now, China sends some of its worst products to Africa (i.e., everything breaks all the time...you think it is bad in the US.) So, maybe it possible there are different versions and either you can get one of those or the ones available in Asia are better than what I rode. I think the ones in Kenya ran about $100 each, new.
Anyway, of the ones I've ridden, I would not get one of these bikes for use on American roads, side-by-side with cars. Maybe the ones I rode weren't optimally adjusted, but I found that they were simultaneously upright, but with awkward handlebars where I felt neither nimble nor stable. More than that, the rod linkages for the brakes were horrible - far worse than suicide levers. I'm guessing it also had steel rims but didn't really check close (maybe I'll take a real close look when I'm over again). The saddle wasn't too great either. The bike was incredibly heavy (50 lbs according to the site above), but, probably near indestructible with the heavy tubing and the two top tubes. Other upside is that in includes a rack, fenders, and a fairly comprehensive chainguard. Even so, if I wanted a similar or better riding bike, I'd pick up an old Sears Free Spirit at the local Salvation Army thrift store.
Now, I imagine it is possible to tweak fit a bit, perhaps adjust the rod-linkage brakes, replace the pads, wheels, and maybe end up with something safer. However, I wouldn't think of these bikes as an alternative to another bike, but as an alternative to walking that may be 1.5x to 2x faster.
I'd also consider any maintenance issues you might have. My guess is that they are far harder to service. For example, there may be a way, but I'm not sure how you'd adjust those brakes. I'll ask someone the next time I'm over there.
So, I would think owning one, here, would be more of a novelty than anything else. However, if this is what you want and want to ride it around and use it, it is a bike, then, that is good. Good luck.
I travel a lot for work internationally, including the developing world. I've ridden this bike in Africa - in both Kenya and the DRC. Now, China sends some of its worst products to Africa (i.e., everything breaks all the time...you think it is bad in the US.) So, maybe it possible there are different versions and either you can get one of those or the ones available in Asia are better than what I rode. I think the ones in Kenya ran about $100 each, new.
Anyway, of the ones I've ridden, I would not get one of these bikes for use on American roads, side-by-side with cars. Maybe the ones I rode weren't optimally adjusted, but I found that they were simultaneously upright, but with awkward handlebars where I felt neither nimble nor stable. More than that, the rod linkages for the brakes were horrible - far worse than suicide levers. I'm guessing it also had steel rims but didn't really check close (maybe I'll take a real close look when I'm over again). The saddle wasn't too great either. The bike was incredibly heavy (50 lbs according to the site above), but, probably near indestructible with the heavy tubing and the two top tubes. Other upside is that in includes a rack, fenders, and a fairly comprehensive chainguard. Even so, if I wanted a similar or better riding bike, I'd pick up an old Sears Free Spirit at the local Salvation Army thrift store.
Now, I imagine it is possible to tweak fit a bit, perhaps adjust the rod-linkage brakes, replace the pads, wheels, and maybe end up with something safer. However, I wouldn't think of these bikes as an alternative to another bike, but as an alternative to walking that may be 1.5x to 2x faster.
I'd also consider any maintenance issues you might have. My guess is that they are far harder to service. For example, there may be a way, but I'm not sure how you'd adjust those brakes. I'll ask someone the next time I'm over there.
So, I would think owning one, here, would be more of a novelty than anything else. However, if this is what you want and want to ride it around and use it, it is a bike, then, that is good. Good luck.
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I ate Taco Bell again and was awarded Mayor of Taco Bell.
Also, I drank a beer.
No diarrhea.
No pigeon spunk, although the Taco Bell the other day may have contained some of the "white slime" optional stuff.
Also, I drank a beer.
No diarrhea.
No pigeon spunk, although the Taco Bell the other day may have contained some of the "white slime" optional stuff.
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Like new, $169 !!!! Sorry, it's only a single top tube squab and no enclosed chain, but...
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/2931643596.html
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/2931643596.html
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Too bad, based on this thread I might have tried to build up a double top tube frame with US market components but the guy selling them on Ebay seems to be gone.
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I had a sesame bagel for breakfast. Now I'm going to have a delicious Costco churro.
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Nicely Done - tasteful to say the least....quite like the stand holding it up tooooo
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Having Ridden and worked on a few of these, i feel i am in an good position to speak of their utter craptitute, The quality on these things is shockingly bad, shocking. A Customer brought one in new in the box having just shipped it over from china everything was starting to rust right out of the box, they have the weight and ride of a frame made of lead pipe, The brakes are **** at high speed, brake pads wear quickly, especially in the wet, and good like finding new ones. it really is the build quality that seemed to let these things down. worse than bargain basement made in Cambodia warlmart bikes.
But hey if you want to be the first peasant on the block go ahead. retail is about 30$ in china so i can only imagine what they wholesale for@199 they're a total scam.
Edit: I think it may be possible that the us bound ones are higher quality than the Chinese Domestic market models I've seen i wouldn't bet two bills on it. Spending 200$ on a old Raleigh if you can find one would be a much better buy.
But hey if you want to be the first peasant on the block go ahead. retail is about 30$ in china so i can only imagine what they wholesale for@199 they're a total scam.
Edit: I think it may be possible that the us bound ones are higher quality than the Chinese Domestic market models I've seen i wouldn't bet two bills on it. Spending 200$ on a old Raleigh if you can find one would be a much better buy.
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Having Ridden and worked on a few of these, i feel i am in an good position to speak of their utter craptitute, The quality on these things is shockingly bad, shocking. A Customer brought one in new in the box having just shipped it over from china everything was starting to rust right out of the box, they have the weight and ride of a frame made of lead pipe, The brake are **** a high speed, brake pads wear quickly, especially in the wet, and good like finding new ones. it really is the build quality that seemed to let these things down. worse than bargain basement made in Cambodia warlmart bikes.
But hey if you want to be the first peasant on the block go ahead. retail is about 30$ in china so i can only imagine what they wholesale for@199 they're a total scam.
Edit: I think it may be possible that the us bound ones are higher quality than the Chinese Domestic market models I've been i wouldn't bet two bills on it. Spending 200$ on a old Raleigh if you can find one would be a much better buy.
But hey if you want to be the first peasant on the block go ahead. retail is about 30$ in china so i can only imagine what they wholesale for@199 they're a total scam.
Edit: I think it may be possible that the us bound ones are higher quality than the Chinese Domestic market models I've been i wouldn't bet two bills on it. Spending 200$ on a old Raleigh if you can find one would be a much better buy.
Take your uneducated opinion elsewhere on your trendy fixie, you hipster.
I wanted somebody who's actually ridden one.
If you think you're so hip why don't you go drink some PBR and listen to vinyl records.
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Someone had to reply for garage sale GT
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I have ridden with someone who amazingly kept up at 20mph on one of these. He modded it for 3 speed and changed the bars, but still
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I think the second Flying Pigeon project would still look good if you took off that SS/FG wheelset and replaced it with the original Westwood rims and some cream colored Kendas with the stock, original style old school block tread, but that would mean finding a 40h C/B hub online or trying to make the rod brakes work with a different bar and stem. The original bar is too close but not so close that you can sit completely upright
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