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apos13 05-30-12 12:37 AM

Pure Fix or Windsor Timeline
 
I'm looking to buy a new bike, and I've come to choosing between Pure Fix bike or a Windsor Timeline or Mercier Kilo.
I don't mind riding fixed or freewheeled.
But I was just wondering which bike has the best value?

I have a $400 limit. Any other bike recommendations would be nice!

Thanks!

squirrel_master 05-30-12 02:33 AM

Kilo or Windsor, their chromoly frames are better than hi-ten steel

bfloyd6969 05-30-12 03:01 AM

+1 on either the Timeline or Kilo. However, I suggest that you find out if you prefer fixed or free. The two are completely different animals. If you don't know which you prefer yet, I recommend going with the Timeline. It comes with both front and rear brakes and freewheel. You will need to add your own fixed cog, but that is a relatively inexpensive add. Then you can flip the wheel around to see which you prefer to ride (or just having both is cool to give you a variety of riding style). Then, if you decide that fixed is not your thing and you prefer to ride free, then you already have the brakes.

AristoNYC 05-30-12 04:11 AM

I bought a Windsor The Hour and I am very happy with it, I probably would have went with a TT PRO if they had them in stock.

markaitch 05-30-12 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by squirrel_master (Post 14288629)
Kilo or Windsor, their chromoly frames are better than hi-ten steel

the constant refrain around here that a bikedirect chro-mo frame is automatically better than any hi-ten frame is not quite true. i suggest you take this post about a kilo wt from another thread into consideration...


Originally Posted by john4789 (Post 14280019)
Careful on the WT, know what you are buying. Search it in depth for cracked frames. Mine cracked a month in and w/o any major trauma. Others have had theirs crack on shipping, others due to mis-spec'd seatpost diameters. Always below the seat post clamp.

I love this bike and did a seriously ghetto fix to my frame to keep it going - JB weld of seat post in the seat tube to span the crack (after talking w/ local frame builders who would have charged me a fortune to do a groove weld to fix it). It seems to be holding after 400 miles so it is OK, just the seat height is no longer negotiable.

Do research, then more research, then some more when buying on BD.


striknein 05-30-12 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by markaitch (Post 14288792)
the constant refrain around here that a bikedirect chro-mo frame is automatically better than any hi-ten frame is not quite true. i suggest you take this post about a kilo wt from another thread into consideration...

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

Oil_LOL 05-30-12 06:39 AM

I have a Timeline for commuting and utility, and it's a great bike.

apos13 05-30-12 02:19 PM

Thanks! I'll cross out the Pure Fix out of my list then.
Since the white and black Windsors are sold out, I'm kind of leaning towards

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm
or
http://bikesdirect.com/products/merc...t_stripper.htm

I'm kind of leaning towards the Motobecane because you can put wider tires on them.

calv 05-30-12 02:41 PM

Get the Uno. You have more options than with the Kilo TT.

bfloyd6969 05-30-12 04:13 PM

Keep in mind the Stripper has no water bottle mounts if that matters to you...

mihlbach 05-31-12 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by apos13 (Post 14291147)
Thanks! I'll cross out the Pure Fix out of my list then.
Since the white and black Windsors are sold out, I'm kind of leaning towards

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm
or
http://bikesdirect.com/products/merc...t_stripper.htm

I'm kind of leaning towards the Motobecane because you can put wider tires on them.

What is a pure fix? You can install a freewheel or fixed cog on any of these bikes. Pick the bike you like the best, then set it up how you want it. Try both.

raleighdavp 07-20-12 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by apos13 (Post 14288546)
I'm looking to buy a new bike, and I've come to choosing between Pure Fix bike or a Windsor Timeline or Mercier Kilo.
I don't mind riding fixed or freewheeled.
But I was just wondering which bike has the best value?

I have a $400 limit. Any other bike recommendations would be nice!

Thanks!


Kilo's have a longer top tube. So 53's feel like 55's. And Windsor's have a shorter top tube. I personally like shorter top tubes.

broakland 07-20-12 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 14293442)
What is a pure fix? .... Pick the bike you like the best, then set it up how you want it. Try both.

Pure fix is the purest fixie ever built. And one should never pick the bike they like the best. This is how its done: ask a bunch of snobs on the internet what they think you should like and then get exactly that - even if you do not like the ride.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=262506

Spoonrobot 07-20-12 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by raleighdavp (Post 14505600)
Kilo's have a longer top tube. So 53's feel like 55's. And Windsor's have a shorter top tube. I personally like shorter top tubes.

False. Learn how to read a geometry chart before posting.
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...ht-schrute.jpg

http://www.cyclesmercier.com/geometry_tt.html
http://windsorbicycles.com/timeline_geo.htm

KiloTT: 53 ctc/st, 54.8 tt
Timeline: 53 ctc/st, 56 tt

raleighdavp 07-20-12 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 14506619)
False. Learn how to read a geometry chart before posting.
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...ht-schrute.jpg

http://www.cyclesmercier.com/geometry_tt.html
http://windsorbicycles.com/timeline_geo.htm

KiloTT: 53 ctc/st, 54.8 tt
Timeline: 53 ctc/st, 56 tt

Are you trying to punk me? haha Internet gangster. You post photos and look boss...ya smooth move Dwight.

I rode a 58 and this is the Windsor Hour's geo and I read from C-T not C-C.
[TABLE="width: 859"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 77, bgcolor: white"]58cm[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 78, bgcolor: white"]55cm[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white"]570mm[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white"]990mm[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white"]32.5"[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white"]405mm[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white, align: right"]73.5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl27, width: 64, bgcolor: white, align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



To the OP: He's actually right that I'm wrong about the Geo with the smaller frames. But he didn't have to be a jerk about it as some bikesforum singlespeed trollers are. But if you ride a larger frame, ya the top tubes are smaller.

seau grateau 07-20-12 02:26 PM

Probably doesn't matter because the OP hasn't been asking about bikes for 2 months now.


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