A DA _TRACK_ hub?

yes, a DA TRACK hub. high flange.

there isn't any difference between the bearings and races on a DA road hub, when compared to a DA track hub. what do you think, that they somehow make the track hub to be more delicate or something? Dura Ace is Dura Ace. it's some of the most durable, high quality stuff on the market, just because something is manufactured for the track, doesn't mean it's somehow more fragile that something made for the road. there are plenty of dura ace road hubs still on the road that have been through all kinds of sloppy weather, guess what, they aren't sealed bearing. in fact, NONE of the standard shimano road hubs are sealed bearing. i don't know about their prebuilt low spoke count DA labelled wheels, or the 500 and 540 wheels, but the hubs that come with the groups are unsealed. the biggest different between the road hubs and the track hubs are the outter dust covers on the road hubs, and they don't do squat when it's downpouring, or there's a ton of salt and grime on the road. you're not going to ruin a cup and cone hub by riding it in the real world.

As long as you take care of them, they should last. there aren't any difference in bearing dustcaps between campy super record track hubs and road hubs. I would imagine it's same for shimano.

oh yea. i was wrong.

here it says:
"Dura Ace Track Hub, front, excellent seals for the bearings"

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fixed.asp

Ira in Chi:
your friend is expecting too much then :)

I like to pretend I'm anorexic.

I pronounce Cannondale "crap".

Dura Ace is too nice for bad weather. That's when I ride the Campy Record bike. :rolleyes:

when it's all you have, you have no choice.

What is the suggested TLC procedure for your hubs after a slushy ride? I have Paul hubs that I love tons and want to use forever. This stuff worries me.

you don't really have to do anything to a hub after a slushy ride...you might want to do an overhaul after probably after 4 or 5 months of slushy rides.

i'm pretty sure the paul hubs are cartridge bearing hubs, so there's pretty much zero routine maintenance with 'em.

Just another reaso to love cartridge bearings versus loose ball cup and cone style.

Most of the stuff that gets destroyed by abuse just pops out and fixed up with $5.

Can you qualify that drive by or are you just talking out of your stern tube.

The cartridge bearings in my Ksyriums have 6500 miles on them. I may adjust them a touch this year. Just a tiny bit. Some day I'll knock them out and replace them, I can't imagine when.

and same with cup and cone stuff. bearings are like, $.10. and there's usually 18-24 in each hub. the cones are usually pretty durable, i'd say as durable, if not moreso than standard cartridge bearings. cones are usually not too expensive unless it's a super nice hub, and even then, it's not too bad.

in my experience, it doesn't take that much longer to overhaul/repack a cup-n-cone hub than it takes to pop out the bearings in a cartridge hub.

Yes, but you gotta do it a heck of a lot more often. And if you don't maintain them, you'll ruin the hub.

nnnaaaah, sorry. not true...unless by "maintain," you mean adjust them like, once every year and a half.

dumbass

Yes... Yes, the judges would also have accepted "dumbass".

You advance to the next round.

in defense, i agree....the frames are ugly, the super strech aluminum is ****** (when the get older they have issues) and seriously, it's cannondale

The frames are beautiful. Classic geometry (no compact geometry frames), nice colors/styling (in general), and wonderfully finished welds. Oh yeah, and they're handmade in PA.

I don't own a Cannondale, but I hate it when people bash them for no good reason.

You are my idol. Let's get married, whaddya say? :love:

You guys don't really know what you're talking about. The only problem with cannondales, or any other aluminum bikes for that matter, is that they will probably break at some point. I've never had any problems with any sort of stretching either, my track frame is quite a few years old at this point and still stiffer than anything else I've ever ridden.

"and seriously, it's a cannondale"??!? What the hell is wrong with that? Cannodale(along with klein) basically pioneered the use of aluminum, which is now pretty much standard. They have always supported racing of all sorts. And unlike your iro/surly/soma/pista/fuji/khs/langster/etc... they are actually made in the US, which counts for something as well, to me at least.

But if you want to ride a steel bike, by all means ride one. There are great things about steel, as well as some drawbacks. It's all about personal preference, I wouldn't dis anyone for riding what they like riding, that's all.

A citizen of Poseurville has spoken.

no material is perfect.
except titanium of course ;)

If you let them go for 3,000 miles without repacking and replacing the balls you will. The balls and the cone will get damaged. If you repack and replace the balls about 2000 maximun you will be OK. That's less than one year for me.