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Old 02-06-05, 05:21 AM
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I Let you know that 5 NEW websites about stayersport started the last few weeks.

Steherrennen im Forst (Germany) : www.lausitzsteher-gierth.dl.ag

Stayersarchive Paul Spender (Great Britain) : https://imageevent.com/dernysportuk

Stayeren in Nederland (Holland): www.achterdegrotemotoren.nl

Stayer Oliver Vrchoticky (Austria) : www.stayer.de

Stayer Mario Meurer (Germany) https://mariorad.oyla2.de/cgi-bin/hpm_homepage.cgi

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Dernysport UK (Great Britain) : www.dernysportuk.com

British Pacing Association (Great Britain) : www.bpa.builtfree.org
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I understand the benefits of drafting, but following a carbon monoxide belching vehicle around a track while breathing deeply just doesn't appeal to me. Or am I missing something?
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Probably lower concentrations on the track with dernys than on a typical moderate use 2-lane. Less as you go faster too.

I'd love to try derny someday, hell I'd drive the derny til I get healed up but I bet you gotta know someone to get a cool job like that. That and the fact I'm on the wrong continent
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I'm not sure I understand this sport. What's the point? Also, Have you seen some of the bike setups? Some of the guys have much smaller front wheels and it looks like their forks are backward. How does that help?

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taken off of one of those links.....

that's one hell of a front 'ring
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Yuppie the point of the derny is to provide a place to draft, that's why the guy on the motorcycle is standing up and wearing an outfit to catch more wind. The point of the fork angle is to get closer to the derny. The point of all that is that with a drafter that can go real fast you don't need an aerotuck and you can get tremendous speed better utilizing your strength by not tucking. If you look at the front rings in these pics in the links you'll see these guys are all riding 60 teeth or bigger in front and something tiny in back, and behind the derny they can eventually work up a real high spin. Crazy speed compared to other track events.

I bet it's great for spectators too, my fiance has seen it done in person but I've never had that privilege
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funny.

i was just reading "a movable feast" by hemmingway, and he writes about french derny races in one of the chapters. he made it sound like a crazy sport. i'd be willing to check it out, but it just seems too weird.
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That's just flippin' weird.
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Stayer gears

On 250m tracks the stayers use mostly use a 65 front chainring and 15 on the backwheel.

On 333,33 m (or bigger) tracks they use 67 in the front and 14 behind
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so at a good cadence they're whipping around the drome at 40 mph and going as high as a lil over 50mph. That'd be pretty hair raising while racing and staying a foot to an inch of your derny I bet
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Does this remind anyone else of Rollerball?
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You beat me to it manboy!

Rollerball all the way............
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