Spoonrobot 

This is a very odd thread.

x201

To me, bicycles are fun. I don't know why I can't just chat and enjoy conversation on a bicycle site without a bunch of judgmental ******** coming out of the woodwork. I think it's even more prevalent in the SS/Fixed culture.

I'm hardly new here. But I come and go, mainly because it's just too damn hard to find friendly people without rods up their asses.

Street rider

Look at it from an objective standpoint though. You bought a bike, then decided to put a handful of the parts onto a different frame. Within just a few days.

Spoonrobot 

Just like any culture, the participants are often more friendly when the cultural norms are noted and if not followed, at least given cursory acknowledgement.

To roll in here, obviously lacking knowledge, with a bike that does not fall in the acceptable deviation from the norm and without acknowledging such a fact causes conflict. Which, in this case, manifests as advice about fit and minor nitpicks about your build.

Your fit is terrible, your bike is much too small and anyone who had half a brain would bring it up if you posted it online. This is not a place to coddle the less knowledgeable, it's a place to disseminate information and try to pull those who are new, up out of the ignorance puddle so they too can be productive posters who share worthwhile experiences and insight.

So don't blame us, blame your own lack of knowledge and the general cultural structure in the Western World.

Bicycles are fun, they're really fun when they fit right.

Bat56

Your threads come and go also. Why do you wipe out your side of the conversation?

LesterOfPuppets

awwww.

x201

OK, fair enough post. But I've been working on bicycles for several years and I've been fit before. My proper road frame size is 54cm. The frame the new SS came with was 52cm, which isn't that much of a variation. Back in 2007 when I got my first fixed gear, a local bike shop picked out a 51cm frame for me. I rode that thing for a long time and enjoyed it. I found out later it was a tad too small, but it was certainly rideable.

The new bike was a good deal, if even just for the parts. It was always a plan B to move everything over to my old Raleigh frame if I wanted to try another fit. Unfortunately, what really prompted the the migration was a large dent in the downtube. You can see it here:



I thought I would just live with it, because it's not worth the hassle or cost to me to try to pack this up and ship it back. But the more I looked at it, the more it bothered me, so I decided to just go ahead and swap out the frame and use the Raleigh. The SE frame--it's a loss. I'll give it away on craigslist and someone that's good at working with metal might can fix it.

But what I really have a problem with is people telling me the way I like to setup my bike is wrong. If it's comfortable to me, that's what matters. I don't like, and never have liked, having low handle bars. The guys at Rivendell would agree with me as far as bar placement goes. When I type my measurements in to online road bike sizing calculators (5'10 w/ 30.5" inseam), I get anything from 52cm-54cm. Never larger.

What I primarily look for online is a sense of community. Questions I can answer myself with enough Google searches if I really want to. That's not why I come to forums. I come to forums for the interaction, and I wish at times people were just a tad less assumptive and judgmental.

Didn't want to encourage any newcomers to jump on the hate wagon. eh...

JeremyLC

They also can't learn from your mistakes that way, either.

Spoonrobot 

That sort of explanation is very refreshing to read, now I know where you're coming from everything makes more sense.

We often become assumptive because we see so many after the fact postings that ask about sizing, parts quality/compatibility and so forth. When someone takes the time, as you have just done, to provide background and information about themselves a lot of those preconceived notions go away.

Crandrew

you like starting threads huh?

x201

I often skip over the backstory, but I can see how it might be beneficial to include more information in the future.

bfloyd6969

x201 - with all due respect, perhaps a single thread regarding your newly aquired SE would be a better idea. Perhaps name it "Questions with newly aquired SE" or the like, and combine all the questions there instead of starting multiple threads. It would get alot of traffic I'm sure, and all the q's could be grouped there. I'm sure the mods might do this for you if asked. Just an idea is all....

Regarding that dent in the down tube, there is no excuse for that and it should be returned. Nashbar customer service is pretty good as I've had some issues delt with through them and they've always taken care of them. I'm sure they would make things right about that dent. I would expect them to pay shipping back as well.

Best of luck with the new ride!

markaitch

let's give credit where credit is due...wanna know where that dent in the dt came from? op caused it himself...

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=#post14623795

x201

Wow...

First, I braced against the back of the seat tube with a rag, not the downtube. Second, my track cog removal would never generate enough force to press steel in like that. But third and most importantly, you post this a few minutes after sending me a PM asking me to sell you a quil stem you can buy almost anywhere online? While I told you no because I didn't want to mess with shipping a cheap part, I also said no because I felt something was off about you and your intentions. You didn't give me a good vibe at all.

Nagrom_

Just let this thread die.

striknein

You guys ever try Better Cheddars? They're kinda like Cheez-its, but thinner and flakier somehow, and they're larger in size. Also, you don't get the OMGCHEDDAR explosion after you've eaten like 5 of them, it's more of a slow build that levels off.

Bat56

What does it do to your fingers? Any residue?

striknein

None. They're a little salty though.

NcA13

Well, if you bike a while and sweat some, there's your justification for 'replacing lost sodium'

LesterOfPuppets

Scrodzilla

And you've never heard a new wheel make "tingling" sounds? I'm calling bull****.

Bat56

I've been eating cheez its for more than seven years and I've never heard of Better Cheddars.

Scrodzilla

Better Cheddars are good but Cheez Nips are the way to go.

cobrabyte

I learned something new today. Tingling is not just a feeling, but a sound too.

Street rider

Its all about goldfish crackers