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DA track vs. Campagnolo pista crankset

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Old 09-15-12, 08:20 AM
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DA track vs. Campagnolo pista crankset

looking to upgrade, anyone who has had experience with both of these cranksets

what are the advantages over the other?
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They both look cool.

Isn't that what you're really asking?
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nope.
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Because of your massive guads and your amazing ability to bend forged aluminum with brute force your gonna want to go with the DA they're stiffer I dont want you to be snapping any campys cause you so strong an ha sqrl
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Because of your massive guads and your amazing ability to bend forged aluminum with brute force your gonna want to go with the DA they're stiffer I dont want you to be snapping any campys cause you so strong an ha sqrl
This.

Buy the one you like more.
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For any one not a top level track racer, get which ever one lookes the raddest.
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Originally Posted by Kayce
For any one not a top level track racer, get which ever one lookes the raddest.
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carleton did you ever run the DAs? I'm very close to pulling the trigger on some. I assume you've moved onto those cranks with the power meter though?

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Originally Posted by hamfoh
carleton did you ever run the DAs? I'm very close to pulling the trigger on some. I assume you've moved onto those cranks with the power meter though?
Yes. DA are my favorite. I actually prefer them to my power meter cranks. The DA cranks are a little more forgiving than SRM cranks. It's an easy swap as my SRM cranks use the same DA BB.

Actually, DA cranks are on my bike right now. I just moved to a new crank length for next season and put my DA cranks (in the new length) on till I buy some SRM crank arms in that length.

But, seriously, unless a person is really strong, they won't feel the difference. It's like buying the "very best road running shoes available" to walk to class in. If that's the case, buy what functions well and looks nice. This really opens up your options. But, if DA look best to you, then that's a good reason, too.
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crank length

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I just moved to a new crank length for next season and put my DA cranks (in the new length) on till I buy some SRM crank arms in that length.
longer, or shorter?
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I too plan on splurging on some DA cranks. Is there any reason to buy new over ones that are lightly used? There's a ton on eBay for about $150 in decent shape and I can't really justify spending over twice as much to save a few buffable scratches.
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They're pretty beat, retired keirin cranks.
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I guess what I'm asking is if the threads are still in good shape and the finish looks good, would keirin use have any negative effects on them structurally that I can't see?

/crank noob
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I wouldn't think so. Just be prepared to refinish them.
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Originally Posted by carleton
Yes. DA are my favorite. I actually prefer them to my power meter cranks. The DA cranks are a little more forgiving than SRM cranks. It's an easy swap as my SRM cranks use the same DA BB.

Actually, DA cranks are on my bike right now. I just moved to a new crank length for next season and put my DA cranks (in the new length) on till I buy some SRM crank arms in that length.

But, seriously, unless a person is really strong, they won't feel the difference. It's like buying the "very best road running shoes available" to walk to class in. If that's the case, buy what functions well and looks nice. This really opens up your options. But, if DA look best to you, then that's a good reason, too.
Thanks. I figured as much as far as actually "feeling" big differences. I've only had two cranks noticeably flex on me regularly before and it was enough to make me get rid of them both immediately. Obviously I could save serious coin and just Omniums, no chance of that flexing, and be done with it, but I'm eager to try the octalink bb vs the gxp. you squashed the rumor of brakeless octalink not being great, if I remember correctly. Also helps I think the DA cranks are beautiful
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i'll take the pista cranks all day long over the DA cranks. of course that's just the euro snob in me coming out. i've now got close to 1k miles on my new bike with them, and they are just wonderful.

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euro snob

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i'll take the pista cranks all day long over the DA cranks.
of course that's just the euro snob in me coming out.

no Italian pedals?
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I chose DA
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Good man.
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Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
longer, or shorter?
New coach has me on 170mm cranks. I gotta push the big gears next season if I wanna run with the big dogs.
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Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
no Italian pedals?

let me tell you - it eats me up inside that i'm running shimano pedals on all of my road bikes, but the truth is, they are simply the best pedal for me that i've ever used. cant beat them.
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Ive got both and they are both awesome. Just pick whichever one you like more.
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
i'll take the pista cranks all day long over the DA cranks. of course that's just the euro snob in me coming out. i've now got close to 1k miles on my new bike with them, and they are just wonderful.

sorry for hijacking the thread but rather than start a new one...

i recently got a record pista crankset. now i am shopping for a bottom bracket & due to it being temporary while i save to buy my dream frame, am not willing to invest big bux in the matching campy bb yet.

i was convinced that this crank is symmetrical but upon further research (going to campagnolo's site...duh) i found:
Technical Specifications

axle L. 111 mm (asymmetrical) - composite and light alloy cartridge - light alloy cups - without sealings
which leads me to brilliantly deduce that i may very well need an...asymmetrical bb

now i find that i might have screwed myself. the only other asymmetrical 111mm iso bb i can find is phil wood, which leads me to some questions...

@AngryScientist, or anybody else, to your knowledge - does a budget priced asymmetrical bb that works with the record pista crankset exist?

if not - could cheaper campy bbs like veloce or centaur do the trick?

or - would it be disastrous to use a symmetrical iso bb like this token, which i've found several places, for a while?


thanx in advance for any help...
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i too was unaware that the required BB is asymmetrical, but now that i look at the campy tech docs, it certainly looks like it is.

that said, i'm pretty positive that it isnt offset by much at all, in the range of < .5 - 2 mm. that's pretty insignificant. i know there are people running symmetrical bb's on these. it depends on your frame (chainstay) clearance, if that can handle the slight offset, i wouldnt worry about it, your legs will never know the difference in such a small offset.
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