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Cogs, I can't decide.

Old 12-21-12, 02:03 PM
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campy sucks.
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Old 12-21-12, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat56 View Post
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
[insert furious roto-tom drum fill here]
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Old 12-22-12, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
Good luck using this argument on SRAM fanboys. Their road bike drivetrains are noisy and rough as frick, but their users seem to be clueless to it.
The 1st gen sram red cassette is hollow. It transmits noise more than cassettes of traditional design. Because cassettes are designed differently, the amount of noise that you hear may not have a direct relatioship with efficiency. FG cogs, on the other hand are all solid steel and should transmit noise about the same.

I have a sram equiped bike. It don't find it to be very noisy, but i don't have a red cassette either. I have no particular love for sram, but whats the deal with all the sram hate.
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Whats the deal with all the sram hate.
SRAM components are poorly designed, and and fail far more frequently than Shimano or Campagnolo. Another reason I'm not a SRAM fanboy is that they really aren't innovative. Grip-Shift is really the only successful new product that they've created. Even that(twist shifting) had been done before. Many of their products aren't even their own design, but were designed by other companies that they purchased(Avid, Rock Shox, Zipp).

On the plus side, their warranty department works quickly, and never gives me a hassle.
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Dude, stop typing. If mihlbach uses Sram, it's the best.
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Old 12-22-12, 05:07 PM
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Dude, stop typing. If mihlbach uses Sram, it's the best.
Point taken, but he asked.
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Old 12-22-12, 05:10 PM
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It doesn't matter. He's far above being concerned with trivial things like facts, other opinions or caring.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
The 1st gen sram red cassette is hollow. It transmits noise more than cassettes of traditional design. Because cassettes are designed differently, the amount of noise that you hear may not have a direct relatioship with efficiency. FG cogs, on the other hand are all solid steel and should transmit noise about the same.

I have a sram equiped bike. It don't find it to be very noisy, but i don't have a red cassette either. I have no particular love for sram, but whats the deal with all the sram hate.
Blah blah blah FG cogs, on the other hand are all solid steel and should transmit noise about the blah blah blah.

The problem is not transmission it's creation.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
SRAM components are poorly designed, and and fail far more frequently than Shimano or Campagnolo. Another reason I'm not a SRAM fanboy is that they really aren't innovative. Grip-Shift is really the only successful new product that they've created. Even that(twist shifting) had been done before. Many of their products aren't even their own design, but were designed by other companies that they purchased(Avid, Rock Shox, Zipp).

On the plus side, their warranty department works quickly, and never gives me a hassle.
What are you talking about dude?

campy and shimano have been stealing stuff from SRAM for like 50 years.
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campy and shimano have been stealing stuff from SRAM for like 50 years.
That's it, I'm returning all the Festivus presents I got for you.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
That's it, I'm returning all the Festivus presents I got for you.
Didn't want any of that shimagnolo trash anyway, thanks home boy.
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Old 12-22-12, 10:37 PM
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Blah blah blah FG cogs, on the other hand are all solid steel and should transmit noise about the blah blah blah.

The problem is not transmission it's creation.
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Old 12-22-12, 10:41 PM
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Sounds like a couple of you guys were using the miche cog carrier system.

Thoughts? How does the quality of the cog compare to others? DA, EAI, etc?
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
Sounds like a couple of you guys were using the miche cog carrier system.

Thoughts? How does the quality of the cog compare to others? DA, EAI, etc?
My miche system has been running smoothly for more than 4 years. I change my gearing a couple of times per year. The carrier is holding up fine, no issues with it. The cogs are beginning to show wear, but i have ridden teach of them thousands of miles. I wore out two eai cogs in the same amount of time, but it could be because i tended to use those cogs on bikes that get ridden in the slop more often.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
That's it, I'm returning all the Festivus presents I got for you.
I may need to brush up on my doctrine, but I don't think there are gifts for festivus.
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I use the miche system. I like it and it doesnt seem to make much noise. I suppose if I used a3/32 chain as opposed to the 1/8 i have it might be quieter. Doesnt rust as much as the surly ones i used either.
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