Thanks for making my point more clear. The 1" steerer is dead.

There are a few custom builders that make pennyfarthings, but I'd still say they are obsolete.

Its kinda silly to say that 1" threadless headsets are obsolete and at the same time poke fun of me for saying that threaded systems are obsolete.
Threadless headsets of any diameter are not obsolete. 1" threadless is the same technology as 1 1/8". The only difference is the steering tube diameter. Its nonsensical to say that an inch is obsolete.

Threaded, regardless of diameter, on the other hand, is a technology that is being gradually replaced, except for a few backwards holdouts. Its obsolete.

You all can go cry and ***** about it more of you want to. This has nothing to do with what I think about threaded steereer systems (I do own a few). Just because you happen like something doesn't make it immune from obsolescence.

Just what this forum needs - more snobbery.

I'll call EAI on Monday and tell Dave he needs to throw all those useless Godzilla framesets in the dumpster.

correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Richard Sachs' cyclocross team wins a lot of races also.

While I do understand what you're saying, I think "obsolete" is the wrong word. Four-barrel carburetors may be "obsolete" in some sense too - but there are a lot of people into classic muscle cars (simply because they are classic muscle cars) who are still buying them. The same goes for bikes and some people really enjoy the classic aesthetic of a quill stem and threaded headset.

I know, I know..."A bike is nothing more than a tool and bla bla bla". I disagree.

he sounds like the kind of person who would try and convince the guy building of a 55 chevy 2 door that he should use EFI instead of a carb setup because its more efficient or that the corvette motor is obsolete because they use pushrods.

Lots of people make hobbies out of obsolete things. Theres nothing wrong with that. And just because some people still use them doesnt invalidate obsolescence either.

Threaded stems are either obsolete or trending that direction. Threaded stem technology has stopped evolving, and good quill stems are meant to mimick old designs, not push boundaries.
You cant easily make the same case for fixed gears, since fg gear bikes are still state of the art in trackracing. and fg technology design is still evolving. There are a wide variety of hub-cog interfaces, for example. The jury is still out on which of these is really the best.

Bikes, in general, are not obsolete. Bikes are in widespread use all over the world, and for many people are the most practical and/or only available mode of mechanical transportation. Bike technology is rapidly evolving (rendering some of it obsolete). And bikes are still THE most efficient mode of human powered transportation.
Bikes are far from obsolete.

alot of people would say bikes in general are obsolete as well. but you dont see people going around here and spouting that drivel?

the thing is, for those of us who prefer 1" threaded, we dont care if its obsolete, heavier or less stiff and we also dont want to hear you chime in with your stupid opinions about them.

so save your reasons and opinions and "facts" for those who actually want to debate it.

Thank you for your brilliant insight. I am a a better person for having read your post.

glad to know i could be of some assistant.

Allow me to return the favor...

http://www.englishmaven.org/Pages/Re...prehension.htm

brilliant retort my dear chap.

I'm not sure you got the joke.
Who brought the headset debate to this thread?

do you like butter on your toast?

Paleo, but grape nuts and bran on occasion.

Yours is obviously being a db on the internet.

Hello Pot.


When will you learn to not feed the troll?
Merry xmas!

You're right, man. Saying that people are allowed to like what they want regardless of someone else's opinion is totally out of line. I'm sorry.

For lunch today I had homemade french onion soup and toasted french bread.

I made a grilled chorizo, poblano pepper and jack cheese quesadilla on a habanero lime tortilla topped with a dab of sour cream and homemade pico de gallo. It was delicious.

That's a fine plan. 700c is a good idea if you want to switch over the parts you put on this bike to a nicer frame in the future. It sounds like you've got the "on a budget" thing figured out so just make the necessary changes and keep riding.

If I ever come to MA can I pay you to be my chef?

Sounds delicious.

So we have Poblano and Habanero peppers disclosed and probably Serranos or Jalapenos in the pico.

Pepper power!

I umm.. might have made the mistake of test riding a few bikes yesterday, and that whole new wheel set thing didn't work out so well. A rather attractive 2010 Felt Gridloc in showroom condition followed me home for about half the original price (with a one speed fixed wheel set). It took some time for the aluminum/carbon and colors to grow on me, but that was only before riding it. Still need to adjust it some. I've already put about 20+ miles on it. Snagged a cell phone picture at the beach this morning (complete with dog photo bomb):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...223_074506.jpg

Someone has to sig this.

also, shut up y'all.