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TejanoTrackie 03-07-14 01:52 PM

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Joyous day ! The NOS vintage Campy Pista Track pedals I won in an eBay auction two weeks ago finally arrived from the UK. The price was high, but in the end anything else would have been unacceptable to use on my vintage all Campy Paramount P14. It also included a pair of Campy aluminum toe clips and mounting bolts. The leather straps are an inexpensive Italian brand I had in my parts bin. These are the exact same pedals that came with the bike when I bought it in 1976, but I sold the original ones when I switched over to clipless pedals for racing. I am now trying to restore the bike to its original configuration, and the only main part remaining is the seatpost. The original seatpost now resides on my Ron Cooper vintage Campy Nuovo Record road bike.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367625http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367626http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367627http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367628http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367629

hadavid.acc 03-07-14 04:02 PM

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I just bought my girlfriend a new 43cm bike and here it is,

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367650


Btw, the picture on Bikesdirect was misleading. The fork was shown pink and the crankset is a Truvativ but I received a black fork and a crankset i never heard of.

The handlebar and stem is way to big for a 43cm. I think the drop handlebar is a 42cm and the stem is a long 120mm. I have to invest in those two components.

*sigh.

Other than that, it is a beautiful, strong and light bike.

TejanoTrackie 03-07-14 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16558286)
The handlebar and stem is way to big for a 43cm. I think the drop handlebar is a 42cm and the stem is a long 120mm. I have to invest in those two components.

The same exact thing happened to me with that exact same model and size bike from bd. They told me the bar and stem were supposed to be much smaller to match the frame, but instead they were the sizes probably meant for the largest frame. The problem with bd is they get the bikes boxed in China, and never open them when they arrive at their Texas warehouse to check for problems. No doubt the Chinese factory just throws whatever they have on hand in all the boxes, regardless of the frame size. That is one of the perils of dealing with discount online sellers like bd.

jalopyman 03-07-14 04:50 PM

Enjoy! I think you will be pleased with your decision. Where upstate do you live? Saratogian checking in here. I feel your pain with the salt, my raleigh is unridable at the moment due to corrosion in the bottom bracket. I have a new to me custom traitor that has been inside for far too long, hopefully getting out there tomorrow with the scorching weather!

jalopyman 03-07-14 04:53 PM

http://www.colectiva.tv/wordpress/wp...89efm_clap.gif

iTripped 03-07-14 06:07 PM

I recently updated my pedalroom page, figured I'd update here too. Let's see if I can remember/figure out how to do this in a sane manner.

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/phil-barg...c-10752_11.jpg

ugh. I can never quite remember how to upload something in this forum.

SquidPuppet 03-07-14 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16558286)
I just bought my girlfriend a new 43cm bike and here it is,

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367650


Btw, the picture on Bikesdirect was misleading. The fork was shown pink and the crankset is a Truvativ but I received a black fork and a crankset i never heard of.

The handlebar and stem is way to big for a 43cm. I think the drop handlebar is a 42cm and the stem is a long 120mm. I have to invest in those two components.

*sigh.

Other than that, it is a beautiful, strong and light bike.

In fairness to Bikes Direct, this appears in BOLD in no less than SIX places on the model page:

Please Note: Bikes may come with black fork, different cranks (NoChoice)

sbs z31 03-07-14 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 16557855)
Joyous day ! The NOS vintage Campy Pista Track pedals I won in an eBay auction two weeks ago finally arrived from the UK. The price was high, but in the end anything else would have been unacceptable to use on my vintage all Campy Paramount P14. It also included a pair of Campy aluminum toe clips and mounting bolts. The leather straps are an inexpensive Italian brand I had in my parts bin. These are the exact same pedals that came with the bike when I bought it in 1976, but I sold the original ones when I switched over to clipless pedals for racing. I am now trying to restore the bike to its original configuration, and the only main part remaining is the seatpost. The original seatpost now resides on my Ron Cooper vintage Campy Nuovo Record road bike.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367625http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367626http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367627http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367628http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367629

TT, this is beautiful!

hadavid.acc 03-07-14 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 16558732)
In fairness to Bikes Direct, this appears in BOLD in no less than SIX places on the model page:

Please Note: Bikes may come with black fork, different cranks (NoChoice)

Oh my fault. I guess I will receive a black or a different fork. Darn, bikesdirect didn't give me the pink fork I wanted and the better crankset. OH WELLS, I'll stick with something I didn't want. Great

TejanoTrackie 03-07-14 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by sbs z31 (Post 16558799)
TT, this is beautiful!

Thanks. I love these old handmade steel lugged frames.

Dannihilator 03-07-14 08:15 PM

TT, that is still one of my all time favorites bikes on this site.

Philasteve 03-07-14 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 16558929)
Thanks. I love these old handmade steel lugged frames.

What's the Geo like on that bike? It's a really nice looking bike how's it handle and what year is it?

Scrodzilla 03-07-14 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16558908)
Oh my fault. I guess I will receive a black or a different fork. Darn, bikesdirect didn't give me the pink fork I wanted and the better crankset. OH WELLS, I'll stick with something I didn't want. Great


AristoNYC 03-07-14 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16558908)
Oh my fault. [strike]I guess I will receive a black or a different fork. Darn, bikesdirect didn't give me the pink fork I wanted and the better crankset. OH WELLS, I'll stick with something I didn't want. Great[/strike]

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-cont...blue_large.gif

TejanoTrackie 03-07-14 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Philasteve (Post 16559010)
What's the Geo like on that bike? It's a really nice looking bike how's it handle and what year is it?

It's a 1976 Paramount P14 that was special ordered as a custom size, which Schwinn used to do with their Paramount line of bikes. The frames were made in their Illinois factory and all the brazing was done by women, because they were more careful and patient than men. The geometry is very tight and these bikes were intended to be used in sprint events, so they were made from rather heavy tubing for strength and stiffness. The head angle is 74 degrees, but I don't know the fork rake. As you can see from my photos, there is barely enough clearance in the fork for a 21mm tubular and there is tremendous toe overlap, so making tight turns can be tricky. Handling is super fast and twitchy, but extremely stable at speed. I raced it for 30 years before changing over to my 2006 Bianchi Pista Concept. It has survived multiple crashes without any serious damage, whereas a single crash would have destroyed the Bianchi. I repainted it once to the white color as shown in the photo, which is why it lacks all the decals.

TejanoTrackie 03-07-14 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dannihilator (Post 16558974)
TT, that is still one of my all time favorites bikes on this site.

Thanks, Dan.

SpeshulEd 03-08-14 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16558908)
Oh my fault. I guess I will receive a black or a different fork. Darn, bikesdirect didn't give me the pink fork I wanted and the better crankset. OH WELLS, I'll stick with something I didn't want. Great

I thought you bought the bike for your girlfriend? If your girl complains that much about a free bike you bought her as a gift, she should buy her own bike.

hadavid.acc 03-08-14 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 16559366)
I thought you bought the bike for your girlfriend? If your girl complains that much about a free bike you bought her as a gift, she should buy her own bike.

shes not complaining. I just thought a famous site like bike direct would send the bike as pictured. But it's ok, the bike is great

AristoNYC 03-08-14 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16559402)
shes not complaining. I just thought a famous site like bike direct would send the bike as pictured. But it's ok, the bike is great

Just messing with you, I can relate to your frustration. Sometimes the fine print doesn't take president over pictures, unfortunately it does state it. Glad she/you enjoy the bike however.

Leukybear 03-08-14 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 16557855)
Joyous day ! The NOS vintage Campy Pista Track pedals I won in an eBay auction two weeks ago finally arrived from the UK. The price was high, but in the end anything else would have been unacceptable to use on my vintage all Campy Paramount P14. It also included a pair of Campy aluminum toe clips and mounting bolts. The leather straps are an inexpensive Italian brand I had in my parts bin. These are the exact same pedals that came with the bike when I bought it in 1976, but I sold the original ones when I switched over to clipless pedals for racing. I am now trying to restore the bike to its original configuration, and the only main part remaining is the seatpost. The original seatpost now resides on my Ron Cooper vintage Campy Nuovo Record road bike.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367625http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367626http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367627http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367628http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367629

Nice! I personally would never be able to come to terms with using NOS campy. :lol:

SpeshulEd 03-08-14 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by hadavid.acc (Post 16559402)
shes not complaining. I just thought a famous site like bike direct would send the bike as pictured. But it's ok, the bike is great

Bikes Direct is "famous" for a lot of reasons. I think you might have discovered some of those.

websterrr 03-08-14 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by iTripped (Post 16558660)
I recently updated my pedalroom page, figured I'd update here too. Let's see if I can remember/figure out how to do this in a sane manner.

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/phil-barg...c-10752_11.jpg

ugh. I can never quite remember how to upload something in this forum.

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/phil-barg...c-10752_11.jpg

looking good!

TejanoTrackie 03-08-14 09:20 AM

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Some more photos of the Paramount. I re-installed the original Campy Record Pista 50T chainring, which has a reinforcing shoulder on the inside of the chainring. The chainring I removed was a less expensive Sugino Mighty Track chainring that lacks the shoulder. I used a whole set of the Sugino chainrings ranging from 46 to 51 teeth to save money in the day, since using the expensive Campy parts would have been cost prohibitive at a time when I didn't have a lot of money.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367756http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367757http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=367758

iTripped 03-08-14 11:26 AM

TT, you have done a fantastic job on that Scwinn. I wouldn't have skimped on the pedals either.

iTripped 03-08-14 11:29 AM

Webster, thanks for posting my photo. I think my problem is that I don't post photos often enough to remember how. Did you have to resize it down?


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