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10-10-17, 02:29 AM
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11-15-17, 08:42 AM
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I sort of want to ride the bike with the brake lever on the stem just to try it, but then again, maybe not. 
Is the rear skewer on wrong?
-Tim-
Is the rear skewer on wrong?
-Tim-
11-21-17, 07:33 PM
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The Fixed Gear vs. Freewheel thread in the Roadie subforum makes me want to light my head on fire.
11-21-17, 08:11 PM
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That's how I feel about the road forum at large. I might just have to check out theat thread though for ****s and giggles.
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11-21-17, 08:12 PM
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11-21-17, 10:49 PM
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With a freewheel, the instant you stop working, you loose momentum in your legs and the drivetrain whether you like it or not, and you actually have to work in order to "soft pedal." A fixed does the soft pedaling for you. Also: the sound of a freewheel clicking is the sound of energy being thrown away, and if you don't hear it, it's because that same energy is being used to warm up your hub.
11-22-17, 06:10 AM
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You should have taken my name off the quote. I wouldn't have minded if you made fun of me behind my back, but now you've dragged me over here.... 
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
11-22-17, 08:33 AM
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You should have taken my name off the quote. I wouldn't have minded if you made fun of me behind my back, but now you've dragged me over here....
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
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11-22-17, 09:44 AM
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@zubes5280 , it is against the thread rule to post stuff from forum members, not to mention that it is really tacky to try to score points by dragging stuff from the road forum here. We have these rules because we like seeing actual Jackass bikes and if people start using it for a flame war the thread will get locked so please knock it off.
11-22-17, 11:00 AM
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You should have taken my name off the quote. I wouldn't have minded if you made fun of me behind my back, but now you've dragged me over here....
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
Sorry. Just some attempts to describe what things are like. Point was, fixed or free, when you stop working, something has to happen to the momentum you built up, and just because you coast, it doesn't mean it's ALL going to keep the bike rolling. Some of it is lost in the action of the pawls and friction in the hub, and the momentum developed in the drivetrain itself is lost in forcing the the legs, pedals and chain to stop; when people coast, much of the time they don't let their legs and the drivetrain slow down own their own, they actually stiffen up and force them to stop. In a car, when you shift to neutral, engine speed drops quickly, but not instantaneously, and on most cars it doesn't stop completely - for good reason. On a bike, it's not as important but it matters some. If you aren't trained to soft-pedal (idle) and not stiffen your legs (a waste of energy), you have to think about it; with fixed, you just have to relax and it happens - and you learn very quickly not to stiffen your legs if you want to maintain momentum.
11-22-17, 12:04 PM
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@zubes5280 , it is against the thread rule to post stuff from forum members, not to mention that it is really tacky to try to score points by dragging stuff from the road forum here. We have these rules because we like seeing actual Jackass bikes and if people start using it for a flame war the thread will get locked so please knock it off.
@kbarch, I still don't get it. But I'll move over to the original thread so we aren't misusing this one.
11-22-17, 12:12 PM
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bfssfg - the self moderating sub forum!
I'll be in the back sitting in a hammock with a beer if you need me :shades:
I'll be in the back sitting in a hammock with a beer if you need me :shades:
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11-23-17, 12:09 PM
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Understood, my bad. Wanted to include the quote so folks here could find the thread for context. Thanks for the guidance, definitely don't want to ruin the fun for everyone.
@kbarch, I still don't get it. But I'll move over to the original thread so we aren't misusing this one.
@kbarch, I still don't get it. But I'll move over to the original thread so we aren't misusing this one.
12-28-17, 03:16 PM
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Both tires are flat, too, which (to me) means it hardly ever (or never) gets ridden.
12-28-17, 04:56 PM
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The way that brake lever is mounted on the stem seems like a great way to impale your self.