FixedDriveJess

What's the deal with these? They seem like the perfect solution for me, but I'm worried about them not being comfy to walk in. Are they decent cycling shoes? Right now I ride clipped and strapped.

https://www.dzrshoes.com/midnight

Kayce

Those shoes, and any like them are the worst of both worlds. There is almost no benifit to them* To make them comfortable enough to walk in they are not stiff enough to really work like a clipless pedal should. But to make them function at all as a pedal makes them off for walking.

*The one senerio for them is if all your bikes are spd, and you want to bike to the bodega or the bar or whatever regularly.

MAGAIVER

It really depends, on how far you plan on walking and how far you plan on riding. I have Shimano MT-32 shoes and they are good for short walks(fine for walking around college in the morning) and longish rides.



The DZR shoes seem to be less stiff which would make them a bit more comfortable for walking and a bit worse for riding. Don't expect to ride centuries on them and don't expect to walk all day long on them either.
I personally have never tried DZR shoes, so I'm making assumptioms based on what they look like, you're better off trying the shoes on first to see how stiff/flexible they are, and if they fit your needs. The Shimano I posted above is a real good urban option for SPD pedals and it doesn't look all that bad.

bhchdh 

I find these to be a good compromise between walking and riding.
https://www.keenfootwear.com/us/en/pr...austin%20pedal

Scrodzilla

Without trying them, you can't possibly have a valid opinion of them.

DZR shoes are incredibly stiff while riding and flex just enough behind the hard insert where the cleat installs to make them comfortable when walking around. Walking around in them all day would take a little getting used to but I've done quite a bit of walking in mine and they've been just fine.

MAGAIVER

That's nice to know, just wish they were available around here, I'm kinda worried about buying shoes online and getting the wrong size. Do you have any idea on how they'd fit compared to Vans on Shimano SPD shoes?

Scrodzilla

My size 12 DZR Minnas have a similar fit to my size 12 Vans but are more padded around the collar and are slightly more snug.

FixedDriveJess

Scrod - How are the midnights with laces getting caught in the chain? Can you tuck them away easily or is it a drag?

Scrodzilla

I don't tuck the laces in on any of my shoes and I've never gotten them caught. It would be easy to just tuck them into the collar though.

FixedDriveJess

Ok, cool. How about pedals? What feels good on these? I was looking at 105s

Scrodzilla

105s are SPD-SL pedals and use a different style cleat. You'll need SPD pedals.

FixedDriveJess

What would you recommend for $200 range?


How do these look?

https://www.bikeshopliquidators.com/p...FYWo4AodkWwAeA

Scrodzilla

They won't work because the platform won't fit into the cutout on the soles of DZR shoes.

You need pedals like M520s or M540s (or with a similar design).

FixedDriveJess

Ah interesting. Thanks man, big help!

rex615

I thought the platform made contact with the sole.

Scrodzilla

It makes too much contact for the cutout on the soles of DZR shoes - preventing you from engaging the cleat to the pedal.

jerseyJim

I just ordered a pair of these Keen Austins for $90 off of Amazon and I should get them next week.



I chose these 'cause I have a pair of Keen hiking shoes and if they are even half as good as those I'll be thrilled. I'll report back when they come in and I get a chance to ride and walk in them a bit.

rex615

I see, thanks

BigglyPuff

To add to this, I think Dice and Concubines run big. It helps to know your sizing in Euro-specific shoes, I have some runners that only have a Euro size label. So I sized down and they fit perfectly. Bottom line is always attempt to try on shoes before buying.

FixedDriveJess

Scrod, what pedals would you recommend if I'm looking for under 300g per pair?

Also, how do these work? You don't need the cleats because they're built in?

ddeadserious

Cleats are not built in to the shoe. The cleats will come with your pedals.

FixedDriveJess

So the cleats buckle in to the shoe, yes? How can you walk with those?

ddeadserious

The cleats bolt into the shoe, in the little recess in the bottom. The primary advantage of SPD pedals/shoes is that the cleat can be recessed into the shoe, so that the cleat does not come in contact with the ground when you walk(and if it does contact, it's minimal). On SPD-SL or LOOK style pedals, the cleat bolts to the bottom of the shoe(not recessed) and can make walking kind of awkward.

DZRs with SPD-style cleats:


Road shoes with LOOK cleats:

FixedDriveJess

I see! Thanks for the info man!

nightfly

One thing to be aware of which I just discovered is that with softer shoes you are susceptible to "hot spots" basically you sorta feel where the cleat connects to the pedal and your foot goes a little numb or tingly right above that spot. Stiffer shoes or wider platforms on the pedal help fix this. Doesn't happen to everyone but it happens.