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The_Joe 02-22-13 08:35 PM

Geared fixie. Crazy?
 
I know about the Sturmey Archer hub. But I'm thinking derailleurs. My bike is a conversion so I could easily put a rear derailleur on there to tension the chain but would it work? I'm only about a week into riding fixed and it's not the coasting that I miss but the ability shift.

Nagrom_ 02-22-13 08:38 PM

Wouldn't work. When you back pedal it would eat your derailleur. That being the first problem.

FixedDriveJess 02-22-13 08:45 PM

What Nagrom said. Someone has to invent a new deraileur system for that to happen.

Velognome 02-22-13 09:55 PM

It's been done, it's called a 2 speed crank. Works like an IGH 'cept gives the chainring 2 ratios. Latest incarnation is the Metropolis but they've been around since the teens.

The_Joe 02-22-13 11:51 PM

Hmm. I see. My thinking was having a 2 ring road crank and using the RD as just a chain tensioner. Oh well. Thanks for the advice.

mparker326 02-23-13 07:05 AM

What is wong with the Sturmey if you want gears?

Scrodzilla 02-23-13 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by mparker326 (Post 15307295)
What is wong with the Sturmey if you want gears?

Way too easy.

The_Joe 02-23-13 01:32 PM

The only problem with the Sturmey Archer is that I don't already own one.

Scrodzilla 02-23-13 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by The_Joe (Post 15308275)
The only problem with the Sturmey Archer is that I don't already own one.

Alright, but the main problem with what you're suggesting is that it's not possible.

Jandro 02-23-13 02:28 PM

Didn't Mercier make a 3 speed fg? That worked and was possible ;)

Scrodzilla 02-23-13 02:43 PM

Yup, and it used an Sturmey Archer internally geared hub, not a derailleur as the OP is suggesting.

Leukybear 02-23-13 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by FixedDriveJess (Post 15306388)
What Nagrom said. Someone has to invent a new deraileur system for that to happen.

A fixed system with a functional shifting derailleur is theoretically impossible within reason/ sustainability.

The_Joe 02-23-13 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 15308361)
Alright, but the main problem with what you're suggesting is that it's not possible.

And thats why my original post asked "will it work?"

gregjones 02-23-13 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by The_Joe (Post 15308531)
And thats why my original post asked "will it work?"

No.

gregjones 02-23-13 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by The_Joe (Post 15308275)
The only problem with the Sturmey Archer is that I don't already own one.

Fix THAT:
http://www.amazon.com/Sturmey-Archer...1&keywords=s3x

Velognome 02-23-13 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by The_Joe (Post 15306923)
Hmm. I see. My thinking was having a 2 ring road crank and using the RD as just a chain tensioner. Oh well. Thanks for the advice.


The Metropolis crank is an internal gear 2 speed crank ( ie. ring ) so you don't need the RD.

chicagoSS 02-23-13 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 15309496)
The Metropolis crank is an internal gear 2 speed crank ( ie. ring ) so you don't need the RD.

So you could have a 6 speed fixie if you used the SA fixed hub? would there be any problems?

Angelis 02-23-13 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by chicagoSS (Post 15309543)
So you could have a 6 speed fixie if you used the SA fixed hub? would there be any problems?

The complete loss of simplicity that comes with riding a fixed gear, by using two internal-gears hubs at the same time?

rex615 02-24-13 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by gregjones (Post 15309206)

Has anyone tried one of these hubs, seems like there would have to be some backlash in the gears.

mparker326 02-24-13 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by rex615 (Post 15310294)
Has anyone tried one of these hubs, seems like there would have to be some backlash in the gears.

I've got one. There is a little backlash, but you get used to it. To me it is worth it to have 3 usable gears - 58, 70, and 93.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...psd30f132b.jpg

mconlonx 02-24-13 06:58 AM

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1359392532


Front wheel: Sturmey Archer X-FD 70mm Drum brake, 36h, 3x 2.0 straight gauge spokes, Sun CR18 rim, brass nipples.
Rear wheel: Sturmey Archer S3X 3sp fixed hub, 36h, 3x 2.0 straight gauge spokes, Sun CR18 rim, brass nipples.


http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...2&d=1359392588

OP looking for a S3X wheel...? I gots one for sale. Details in this thread.

The_Joe 02-24-13 10:58 AM

I'm not so interested in gears that I'm looking to spend money on it but thanks for the heads up. I just thought I was on to something. It won't work, oh well.

JohnDThompson 02-24-13 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by rex615 (Post 15310294)
Has anyone tried one of these [S3X] hubs, seems like there would have to be some backlash in the gears.

There is a little lash, like riding a fixed gear with a slightly loose chain, but I don't find it bothersome.

Bikedued 02-24-13 06:30 PM

Somewhere in my stash in Houston, I have a Dana three speed crank system? I imagine it "might" work with a fixed gear. I never got it hooked up to see if it the crank freewheeled or not. The main problem, it's ugly as hell:lol:.,,,,BD

http://www.gardengrapevine.com/Dana-00.jpg

hockeyteeth 02-24-13 06:37 PM

It would be awesome to run ancient Campagnolo Corsa with a custom fixed cog.


http://bikeraceinfo.com/images-all/p...egnano-006.jpg


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