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Old 07-01-13, 05:32 PM
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Newbie Thread: LF everyday DC commuting frame

Alright so I know that there are probably a thousand threads on the frames I am about to list, but all of the ones I have read have not had any form of a definitive answer besides "you get what you pay for".

I'm on a budget (aren't we all) and I am looking for a frame that I can surround with mid range parts to get myself rolling for now, but later on upgrade as funds become available. I've looked at brands such as SE, 6ku, State, Pure Fix, Vilano, Schwinn, and the lower end Fuji bikes and I have decided that end of the spectrum might be a little TOO low for my taste.

So I've gone to some LBS and spent some time talking to people about brands, geometry, size and so on. Lurking multiple forums has helped as well...sort of. For me personally weight is very important. Not only for agility and speed but for transportation from apartment to road to subway to road etc, which has in turn made me look at some aluminum frames, lower end ones that is.

Ideal price range:
Unknown LV1/LV2 - $185 (free ship)/$230 (free ship)
Leader 721 - $250
Aventon Mataro frameset $350 (free ship)

Slightly over my price range:
Colossi Cheeko Track - $320
Colossi Cheeko Road - $370

I would love to hear some feedback from people who own these frames as well as those who have in the past. Please leave me with something useful, not "LEADER SUX BR0." One I get the frame I'll be taking it down to Bike Club in Falls Church for them to complete the rest of the build with me.

PS: last time I was at my shop talking to the guys about frames the recommended a few to me that they already had in stock. Ill list those below as well. Thank you everyone for your time.

Masi Uno
Fuji Classic
Redline 925
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Old 07-01-13, 05:39 PM
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Old 07-01-13, 05:43 PM
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If speed is the most important thing you go with aluminum I suppose. A birdie told me the other day that speed is 99.9% engine, but he's just a bird not really into marketing. I'd make sure you can live with certain tire sizes on those track frames, I think I read that the max tire size a leader 721 can support is 21mm...that's kind of thin on an aluminum frame if the roads are sub par...so not only will you be riding an aluminum frame, but thin high psi tires...not a ride I would personally enjoy if you ever want to do some real distance, but to each their own I suppose. Maybe a carbon fork might help soak up those bumps?

Why not just get a wabi? Light steel, better tire options, "good generic parts" from what I've read. Pricey at $700ish but certainly low compared to other high end steel...and it's below 20 pounds.
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Wabi? I'm not familiar.
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Old 07-01-13, 05:49 PM
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My LBS has a few but they are out of my price range....I think... Right?
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Wabi. Personally, the Wabi classic in 42cm because I'm tiny is my "next bike" if I can ever save up for it.

(Just answering your "Wabi?" question, not saying it's the best frame for you.)
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iirc leaders frames fit up to 28mm (at least in the back) cuz macaframa/mash peoples used their frames a lot and all use 28mm rando tires because theyre "better for skidding," that being said my 722 looks like it could fit a 40

im pretty sure unknowns are anchors

crappy aluminum isnt necessarily a good ride, or necessarily light. my 722 is steel and it doesnt have any amazing components and its around 17 pounds. when youre in the mid 20s it starts to be a haul for stairs and such
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iirc leaders frames fit up to 28mm (at least in the back) cuz macaframa/mash peoples used their frames a lot and all use 28mm rando tires because theyre "better for skidding," that being said my 722 looks like it could fit a 40

im pretty sure unknowns are anchors

crappy aluminum isnt necessarily a good ride, or necessarily light. my 722 is steel and it doesnt have any amazing components and its around 17 pounds. when youre in the mid 20s it starts to be a haul for stairs and such
Exactly my point. I'm not looking to build a 14lb bike, as I don't have that kind of cash, but an 17-19 is somewhat foreseeable. The unknown LV1 states that the frame is 3lbs.
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The Dolan precursa fits right aroun the budget, and meets most of your criteria
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The Dolan precursa fits right aroun the budget, and meets most of your criteria
I'd go for Dolan too out of all those options, though I don't know how tight their geometry is.

I've got a leader 735 and I'm pretty sure I could get 32s on there, roll with 25s but have space for days.
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Does anyone have an opinion of the Redline 925, Masi Uno, or the Aventon? I love Colossi frames, what do you all think about those?
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Colossi's frames are good. So are Leaders. As a former east coast commuter, I gotta give a couple cents here though.

For a commuting bike, utility and comfort should guide your choice. While a tight track bike is fun to whip around in nice weather, it won't do you any favors when rain and snow hit. If you plan on making this a fair-weather bike, that's fine, but if you want to stay happy on the road when the weather turns, look for something that's going to offer you a comfortable ride with room for wide tires and fenders.

Also, cheap aluminum frames are not really ideal for anything. They give a harsh ride, and they're usually as heavy as (or heavier than) a steel frame at the same price point.
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Basically, the "high performance commuter" is a fallacy.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Basically, the "high performance commuter" is a fallacy.
Yeah, I see. But it is possible to get a solid commuter under 19 lbs right?
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I'm sure it's possible, but I've never weighed any of my bikes so I couldn't give you much advice there.
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Yeah, I see. But it is possible to get a solid commuter under 19 lbs right?
I really doubt it. Not with fenders and big tires.

What's the point of a meaningless weight goal? Can you not lift more than 19 pounds?
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Yeah, I see. But it is possible to get a solid commuter under 19 lbs right?
Commuter bikes should never have a weight goal, just keep it equipped with what it takes yo keep you safe and dry.
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Commuter bikes should never have a weight goal, just keep it equipped with what it takes yo keep you safe and dry.
I see. Makes sense!

This seems like a good deal...What do you all think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=221247370749
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You mentioned a Redline 925 a couple of times, they discontinued those awhile back - is the one your shop has NOS, does it fit you, and hopefully it should be discounted?
If so...grab it!
That is a fantastic city/commuter bike, far from light but sturdy and comfortable, comes with big tires & fenders.
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another option for a year round commuter

Jury frame and fork
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