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Hipster Snob 08-04-13 07:21 PM

Trackstand tips?
 
Hey everyone,

I've had a fixie for about a month now and even though I feel more confident on the bike, I still can't get a feel for trackstands. Closest I can get is a miraculous balancing for all of three seconds followed by a gradual creeping forward. Every time I start to inch backwards just the tiniest bit, I lose it immediately. Can anyone offer up tips on how I can finally wait at red lights without unstrapping? :backpedal:

TejanoTrackie 08-04-13 07:44 PM


Huffandstuff 08-04-13 08:03 PM

Real fixie bros dont stop at red lights, can't stop don't want to.

Can't click the video from TT but I'm sure that's got all the info. Turn the handlebars away from your forward foot and balance.

seau grateau 08-04-13 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Huffandstuff (Post 15925339)
\Turn the handlebars toward your forward foot and balance.

ftfy

Huffandstuff 08-04-13 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 15925362)
ftfy

You're right, I was thinking of the rear part of the wheel being away from your foot.

striknein 08-04-13 08:24 PM

Practice makes perfect.

Tristanh666 08-04-13 08:37 PM

Perhaps practice stationary with something to lean against beside you, find 'the sweet spot' and hold it as long as possible. After youve become a master at finding that spot you can practice rolling slowly into a track stand.

hairnet 08-04-13 08:53 PM

The more upright you are the easier it is, so it will help if you can manage to lean your weight back. Try doing it in a driveway with an incline slope or anything inclined. From there you can work to flat surfaces.

By turning the wheel so much to one side you are taking advantage of counter steering to keep the bike up (same as while in motion but exaggerated). So you can move your weight around or just tilt the bike one way or the other to move forward/backward.


Originally Posted by striknein (Post 15925414)
Practice makes perfect.

And this. Once you get it you can do it on any bike.

jlafitte 08-04-13 09:06 PM

^, plus it's easier to learn on a smaller gear.

striknein 08-04-13 09:26 PM

I like to stand with my thighs hugging the nose of the saddle, and put my chest directly over the steer tube. A slightly slacker chain smooths out the movement of the wheel when you make corrections. Also, correct with your ankles, not your legs.

europa 08-05-13 05:36 AM

A month or so of trying isn't much, even though some bas****... er people manage it on the first session. You may be too tense, you may be doing it wrong, you may be wearing the wrong undies. It's just a matter of trying (though knowing how helps).

The other thing to realise is that some people just can't for reasons that are beyond your control. Personally, I seem to be left footed or something because I always turn the wheel the wrong way - had the same trouble in the army with drill. That's not a biggie though it does mean I go into a trackstand attempt a little anxious which doesn't help. Of greater importance though, is that I suffer a condition that makes balance a bit of an issue, and that's something I've only just discovered - all these years I've been wondering why I can't do stuff others can and it's partly because I've got bi-polar.

The biggest tool you have though is the subborness to keep trying. I used to play bike polo with a bloke who had all sorts of great skills and I asked him about it one day. It turns out, he spent at least 3 hours every day practicing. No flamin' wonder he was good (and also unusual, most of us don't have that sort of dedication)

Hipster Snob 08-05-13 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15925285)

+1


Originally Posted by Tristanh666 (Post 15925448)
Perhaps practice stationary with something to lean against beside you, find 'the sweet spot' and hold it as long as possible. After youve become a master at finding that spot you can practice rolling slowly into a track stand.

Yeah, I think I'm in a little over my abilities if I'm trying to just jump into rolling into trackstands. I'll take it down a notch and try and progress.


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 15925493)
The more upright you are the easier it is, so it will help if you can manage to lean your weight back. Try doing it in a driveway with an incline slope or anything inclined. From there you can work to flat surfaces.

By turning the wheel so much to one side you are taking advantage of counter steering to keep the bike up (same as while in motion but exaggerated). So you can move your weight around or just tilt the bike one way or the other to move forward/backward.

The driveway suggestion makes a lot of sense, I'll give it a shot! When it comes to that rocking back and forth motion, I should be controlling that with my weight as opposed to my legs, right? Should my legs be flexed or more relaxed in the position?


Originally Posted by striknein (Post 15925587)
I like to stand with my thighs hugging the nose of the saddle, and put my chest directly over the steer tube. A slightly slacker chain smooths out the movement of the wheel when you make corrections. Also, correct with your ankles, not your legs.

I've been trying to find posts that cover which body positions provide the greatest stability, you've nailed it, thank you!!


Originally Posted by europa (Post 15926267)
A month or so of trying isn't much, even though some bas****... er people manage it on the first session. You may be too tense, you may be doing it wrong, you may be wearing the wrong undies. It's just a matter of trying (though knowing how helps).

The other thing to realise is that some people just can't for reasons that are beyond your control. Personally, I seem to be left footed or something because I always turn the wheel the wrong way - had the same trouble in the army with drill. That's not a biggie though it does mean I go into a trackstand attempt a little anxious which doesn't help. Of greater importance though, is that I suffer a condition that makes balance a bit of an issue, and that's something I've only just discovered - all these years I've been wondering why I can't do stuff others can and it's partly because I've got bi-polar.

The biggest tool you have though is the stubbornness to keep trying. I used to play bike polo with a bloke who had all sorts of great skills and I asked him about it one day. It turns out, he spent at least 3 hours every day practicing. No flamin' wonder he was good (and also unusual, most of us don't have that sort of dedication)

A very inspiring post; you've motivated me to go at this even harder.

Germany_chris 08-05-13 07:01 AM

How can you be a hipster snob with no skillz?

Jandro 08-05-13 09:20 AM

^ loled.

Good luck, OP. As others have said: you'll get it with practice.

Oh, also, if you're just learning, I would suggest learning to point your wheel to the right, rather than the left. That way, should you ever actually go to a track (not likely based on your username ;) ), you already know the proper way to track stand... on a track.

I made this mistake and now have to learn to do ambidextrous track strands. :/

gregjones 08-05-13 12:59 PM

Perhaps you should just go to a track in the southern hemisphere.

They ride in the opposite direction.

seau grateau 08-05-13 01:00 PM

Track? Yeah right.

NateRod 08-05-13 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jandro (Post 15927064)
^ loled.

Good luck, OP. As others have said: you'll get it with practice.

Oh, also, if you're just learning, I would suggest learning to point your wheel to the right, rather than the left. That way, should you ever actually go to a track (not likely based on your username ;) ), you already know the proper way to track stand... on a track.

I made this mistake and now have to learn to do ambidextrous track strands. :/

This is me right now.

Hipster Snob 08-05-13 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15926469)
How can you be a hipster snob with no skillz?

Hey now, *sips tea* I like to think my skills on a bicycle *sips tea* are pretty alright. *buttons up flannel shirt and strokes beard*

Originally Posted by Jandro (Post 15927064)
^ loled.

Good luck, OP. As others have said: you'll get it with practice.

Oh, also, if you're just learning, I would suggest learning to point your wheel to the right, rather than the left. That way, should you ever actually go to a track (not likely based on your username ;) ), you already know the proper way to track stand... on a track.

I made this mistake and now have to learn to do ambidextrous track strands. :/

Solid point, thanks for the luck!

Jandro 08-05-13 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by gregjones (Post 15927996)
Perhaps you should just go to a track in the southern hemisphere.

They ride in the opposite direction.

Oh?

jdgesus 08-05-13 02:30 PM

he's right, TV tech makes it mirror image so not to confuse the northern hemisphere watchers

TejanoTrackie 08-05-13 02:34 PM

Coriolis effect.

hairnet 08-05-13 03:27 PM


Jandro 08-05-13 03:43 PM

^ I was waiting for someone to post that one.

seau grateau 08-05-13 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by jdgesus (Post 15928410)
he's right, TV tech makes it mirror image so not to confuse the northern hemisphere watchers

Crazy part is how the riders all wear reverse-printed kits.


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