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Old 08-11-13, 04:03 AM
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Used EAI Bareknuckle frameset

Found a used Bareknuckle frame/fork for sale for $350. I'd also have to pay to have it shipped so the end total would probably be between $400-$450. Does that sound like a good deal? The frame has some scuffs/scratches on the paint but nothing major or structural. I know the frameset retails for $650 new but I don't know what the used market is like for this particular frame.

I've always wanted a Bareknuckle frameset, so if it's a great deal than I think I'll buy it. I don't absolutely NEED the frame right now though so if it isn't an amazing deal then I can always wait.

EDIT: Some sizing info...

It's a 60cm frame. I think either the 60cm or the 62cm would fit me. I'm 6'3" w/ a 35" inseam. I currently have a 61cm 722TS and a 62cm Steamroller. The Leader currently has bullhorns and a 90mm stem and I feel just a tad stretched out on it at times. The Steamroller is comfortable though it has a 50mm stem and risers. I'm not super familiar with the geometry of the Bareknuckle so am not sure whether the 60cm would be best or if I should wait and look for a 62cm.






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Old 08-11-13, 11:30 AM
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The paint on the dropouts is pristine. That can only mean two things....this is an old frame that has been repainted or it is a new frame that has been treated badly but has never been ridden.

Do you know which?
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Old 08-11-13, 11:34 AM
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Regarding fit...
BKs are measured center-to-center (C-C). I'm not 100% certain, but am willing to bet the other frames you mentioned are measured center-to-top (C-T). You have to consider that when discussing size. A 60cm C-C frame is going to be a couple of cm larger than a 60cm frame measured C-T.

I would forget about frame size and compare the (horizontal) top tube lengths.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
The paint on the dropouts is pristine. That can only mean two things....this is an old frame that has been repainted or it is a new frame that has been treated badly but has never been ridden.

Do you know which?
I think the frame may have been repainted somewhat recently, as the ad mentions it was powder coated white. I'm assuming they don't just mean it came white from the factory. Another reason I think that is because it looks like the steerer tube on the fork is white and I don't think it comes from the factory like that. I'm asking for confirmation and any other background info on the frame. Will report back once I get a reply.

Also, in regards to fit, I believe the 60cm frame would be my best bet. My Competitive Cyclist results recommend a top tube length of anywhere between 59cm-60.6cm. The 60cm Bareknuckle has a 58.5cm top tube length, which is slightly lower than what these results recommend. The rest of the dimensions fall right within my range though, and from what I hear the 62cm Bareknuckle is absolutely gargantuan. If they made a 61cm it would be perfect, but I think the 60cm would suit me better than the 62cm in this case.

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Originally Posted by mihlbach
The paint on the dropouts is pristine. That can only mean two things....this is an old frame that has been repainted or it is a new frame that has been treated badly but has never been ridden.

Do you know which?
Heard back from seller. He bought the frame about 2 years ago and it was originally pink. He had it powdercoated white and rode it for a few months before leaving for college. He left the frame at his parents while in college and is selling it now because he needs the money.
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Originally Posted by smurray
Heard back from seller. He bought the frame about 2 years ago and it was originally pink. He had it powdercoated white
Fail!

Also, Those dropouts have never see axle nuts. The fact that he didn't remove the crown race before powder coating (which is dumb) and it doesn't appear scratched in any way are another pretty good sign it hasn't been ridden since.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Fail!

Also, Those dropouts have never see axle nuts. The fact that he didn't remove the crown race before powder coating (which is dumb) and it doesn't appear scratched in any way are another pretty good sign it hasn't been ridden since.
I don't mind the white, but pink would have been kind of cool. Definitely unique. There are a couple of spots on the fork where the paint/powdercoat looks a little scratched/rubbed. There's also a spot on the corner of the dropouts. You're right though that the dropouts themselves don't look like they've had a wheel installed. Not sure what's going on there though. I can ask the seller about it, but can you think of any specific situations/circumstances I should be on the lookout for? I already asked him if it's ever been in an accident or had any damage other than paint scuffs and he said no.
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Well...unless he's including the headset that crown race belongs to, it will need to be removed. Even if he is including it, you'll most likely need to remove the powder coating from the crown race and most likely the steerer tube too. There also appears to be some powder coating inside the top of the seat tube, which may need to be cleaned out to get a seatpost in there. The seatpost on my BK fits really tightly as it is.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Well...unless he's including the headset that crown race belongs to, it will need to be removed. Even if he is including it, you'll most likely need to remove the powder coating from the crown race and most likely the steerer tube too. There also appears to be some powder coating inside the top of the seat tube, which may need to be cleaned out to get a seatpost in there. The seatpost on my BK fits really tightly as it is.
Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know how difficult it would be to remove the powder coat from those parts? If it's not too hard I don't mind, but if it's gonna be more trouble than it's worth then I'd prefer to know now.
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All you'll probably need is fine sandpaper and/or paint stripper. It's not rocket science, it's just a bit of a pain in the ass.
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Originally Posted by smurray
Found a used Bareknuckle frame/fork for sale for $350. I'd also have to pay to have it shipped so the end total would probably be between $400-$450. Does that sound like a good deal? The frame has some scuffs/scratches on the paint but nothing major or structural. I know the frameset retails for $650 new but I don't know what the used market is like for this particular frame.

I've always wanted a Bareknuckle frameset, so if it's a great deal than I think I'll buy it. I don't absolutely NEED the frame right now though so if it isn't an amazing deal then I can always wait.
The frame has an ugly half-assed re-paint job.
You can't inspect it personally.
Cost with shipping is more than half the cost of a new BK.
BKs are overpriced for what they are.


Its not an amazing deal. Take you own advice and pass.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
Its not an amazing deal. Take you own advice and pass.
This! Clearly you're not that passionate about it, and there are definitely better deals to be had within the $400-450 price range, particularly when buying secondhand.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Fail!

Also, Those dropouts have never see axle nuts. The fact that he didn't remove the crown race before powder coating (which is dumb) and it doesn't appear scratched in any way are another pretty good sign it hasn't been ridden since.
Heard back from the seller again. The bike has not been built up since it was powder coated. The minor scratches on the top tube and fork are from getting bumped around while the frame was in storage. He confirmed the seat and steerer tube need some sanding to remove excess powder coat. He also sent a picture of a small section where the underside of the down tube and head tube meet that didn't get fully coated. I'm attaching the picture below. It sounds like the paint job isn't great, but I'm honestly not too concerned about the paint. If I feel like it I figure I can always get it repainted again down the road.

I still have to find out how much shipping is going to cost. The question I need to figure out now is whether a barely used frame with a kinda crappy paint job is worth saving around $200-250 over buying new. As I mentioned before, if it's a good deal I'm all over it and will be incredibly stoked to finally have a Bareknuckle. If I'm better off waiting until I can afford a new frame then that's also an option. I definitely have my heard set on a BK as my next bike though, that much I know for sure. It's just a matter of buy used now or wait and buy new later.

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I wouldn't buy someone else's **** up for that much money.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
I wouldn't buy someone else's **** up for that much money.
Amen.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
I wouldn't buy someone else's **** up for that much money.
You guys definitely have me leaning towards passing on this one. I'll wait to see exactly how much shipping will be and see if he'll lower the price at all considering the quality of the powder coat. If I can get the total w/ shipping to $350 or less I still may consider it, otherwise I'll just save up for a new BK frame.
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