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Fuji Classic Track or Feather ?

Old 01-09-14, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by norwegianRoadie View Post
Scrodzilla, calm Down :-)
You have no idea how relaxed I am.
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Old 01-09-14, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
BD is clearly comfortable with their business model. At some point they decided it just wasn't worth it for them to ship internationally. You could always get a KHS flite.
Nah, they've just taken the lazy route because they're gouging enough money out of Americans.

Want a comparison?
Those of us outside of the US are frequently confronted with 'we do not ship outside of the continental USA', often with the pathetic excuse that it's too hard. Yes, I know, some of you will want to jump up and defend that attitude, but I suggest you ask Scrod how difficult it is. And why would it be hard to ship to Hawaii?
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Old 01-09-14, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
You have no idea how relaxed I am.
He meant relative to normal people Scrod, not just relaxed by your standards.
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Old 01-09-14, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
Even though the feather has a slightly slacker head tube angle it is still pretty darn aggressive and I wouldn't think there would be much of an actual difference with regard to street riding. In fact the track classic has a slightly longer wheelbase. Neither of these bikes is designed for touring. My only actual experience was with a feather and it definitely seemed trackish to me.
Not arguing with you mate. I haven't ridden one but knew a lass who owned one and I never gained the impression it was any more than just a comfy road bike, right up there with eighties roadies.
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Old 01-09-14, 08:32 PM
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I vote you move to the U.S. and buy a kilott.
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Old 01-10-14, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by europa View Post
Nah, they've just taken the lazy route because they're gouging enough money out of Americans.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what I said.
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Old 01-10-14, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Philasteve View Post
I vote you move to the U.S. and buy a kilott.
That is a thought...
hm. KHS Flite, looks like a nice bike, trying to find out some prices from some RARE retailer that will export :-), a definate alternative. In the right size OF COURSE...
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Old 01-24-14, 05:14 AM
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Well, I actually found a 20mile + shop display LOVELY black 2012 Kilo TT on ebay, and someone who wasn't scared of sending something to Europe (must be very very scary judging from a lot of Ebay.com items in the US..).

And, the right size :-) 60cm, and the Kilos run quite big, so that's perfect.
I VERY MUCH prefer the 2012 with the chrome forks and rear, and he's selling me the frame + Cane Creek headset, Powerspline bottom bracket and the Truvative cranks, ready to be customized.

Now I just have to look through the Kilo TT thread for some inspiration, whether to do a retro simple black&chrome Nitto stem and riser bars look, or a more stealthy all black track demon look... NICE.
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Old 01-24-14, 11:27 AM
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Nobody is "scared" of sending things to Europe but the average eBay seller usually doesn't want to deal with the added hassle and stress of filing a claim if the package gets damaged or never arrives.

My shop ships frames all over the world on a daily basis. However, the box needed to ship a complete bike is very large. Because of size restrictions set by most foreign postal services, it is extremely expensive to ship a complete bike overseas.

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Old 01-25-14, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Nobody is "scared" of sending things to Europe but the average eBay seller usually doesn't want to deal with the added hassle and stress of filing a claim if the package gets damaged or never arrives.

My shop ships frames all over the world on a daily basis. However, the box needed to ship a complete bike is very large. Because of size restrictions set by most foreign postal services, it is extremely expensive to ship a complete bike overseas.
I absolutely see you point, as I am in sales myself, But!: I am mainly talking about small and even large companies - both Ebay and online, and proportionally compared to say England - there is a general reluctance to sell abroad, and the US is missing out Big Time. I have ordered for $1000s since 2001 online, a lot of which US companies have lost out on, and not for the lack of me trying, the general scepticism is always there. You have to ask yourself what more small export orders could have done to help the US economy after 2008... If I want to pay , will take the risk, and am willing to pay the costs, then go figure..

So feel free to let me know what parts you sell, as you're obviously working for an enlightened company....:-)

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Old 01-25-14, 03:54 AM
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#missingthepoint
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Old 01-25-14, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Nope scrodz, your point was mainly that there are a lot of restrictions on size etc, which is completely understandable, but many like myself are willing to pay! And are not given the oppurtunity. But this is a minor detail, complete bikes? Many companies and ebay sellers don't even sell parts to Europe. The market is there for the taking, most people would not care if the shipping is high, as bikes like the Kilo are still excellenet value for money. Your choice.

Anyway all this was not supposed to pulled off in this direction, it was mainly an expression of joy in obtaining a Kilo TT, but some people have a tendency to get a bit defensive and argumentative... Me I'm just happy I've done a good deal.
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Old 01-25-14, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Nobody is "scared" of sending things to Europe but the average eBay seller usually doesn't want to deal with the added hassle and stress of filing a claim if the package gets damaged or never arrives.

My shop ships frames all over the world on a daily basis. However, the box needed to ship a complete bike is very large. Because of size restrictions set by most foreign postal services, it is extremely expensive to ship a complete bike overseas.
Btw, to get this onto a more positive note, how much roughly and who do you use, how much for a frame?
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Old 01-25-14, 10:50 AM
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You can easily go on my site and see that for yourself.
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Old 01-25-14, 12:00 PM
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the **** is going on here?
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Old 01-25-14, 12:22 PM
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Some dude from Europe is too lazy to click a link and instead wants me to type an essay explaining how American commerce and exporting works.

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Old 01-25-14, 11:36 PM
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post some pictures of Norwegian fjords with a bike in the foreground!!! I hear it's beautiful... Do you like Knut Hamsun?

ps; definitely the feather
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Old 01-26-14, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by max5480 View Post
post some pictures of Norwegian fjords with a bike in the foreground!!!
I think you meant "fjorground."
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Old 01-30-14, 06:53 PM
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My God this place is a Bikes Direct breeding ground. You guys are like Kilo TT amoebas...
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My God this place is a Bikes Direct breeding ground. You guys are like Kilo TT amoebas...
mmmmmm, amoeba
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Finally some light comic relief in this thread. I'm not necessarily Kilo TT-biased, but it does seem excellent value for money With some Nice details, so now I'm just trying to focus on which style I'm going for on this black frame...





BTW Scrodzilla, you might want to make the topic of your essay: The Customer Is Always Right, a case study in customer service and Retail sales psychology. Then again maybe not....
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The obvious right answer was Leader 725... duuuuh.
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Old 02-01-14, 04:13 AM
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aaaha.
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