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cheremyy 04-01-14 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 16631559)
I wouldn't be too worried about surface rust, it'll take an eternity to eat through the tubing that is if you keep it indoors and wipe it down after being caught in wet weather.

You have more than enough time to make a decision or better yet, not worry about it and keep riding it as is, nothing is really subtracted besides aesthetics, until you want to upgrade.


Lol I was under the impression that the rust would eat through the frame in a year. Thanks for the info.

hueyhoolihan 04-01-14 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16631564)
I keep my bike inside too...

i hear ya.

all i can say is they did a piss poor job of painting it. :lol:

but as other's have noted, the rust looks to be superficial and the frame will last many years if you just throw a little grease or oil over the rusting areas. and if you decide to have it stripped and powder coated that superficial rust won't necessarily return, at least it hasn't on any of the frames i've had powdercoated and that previously had superficial rust no more extensive than yours. good luck.

Philasteve 04-01-14 05:08 PM

That's pretty crazy man, you got some good advice though. My Surly Steamroller has been ridden threw snow/sleet/rain, and is only a little rusty at the fork and rear frame dropouts. I guess it's just prepared better, my surlys been through 3 winters already too. Ride it till it's unsafe or invest in a nicer frameset.

TugaDude 04-01-14 06:09 PM

Have to define terms here. Rusting from the inside is different from rust happening under the paint. Framesaver stops internal rust, the inner surface of the tubing. Has nothing to do with the outer surface. The problem is crappy paint. The paint is so permeable that it is not offering sufficient protection. You can probably slow the rusting down by applying a clear sealer, at least a good one. If you can keep the moist salt air away it will not continue to rust. Personally I would chemically remove the paint (shouldn't be hard!) sand away any traces of rust then prime, paint and clearcoat. Takes some time and skill but can be very rewarding. Or just have it powdercoated.

I don't know where you live, but I'm confident there are tons of steel bikes around and I'm sure they aren't all being painted every two years.

Good luck whatever you decide.

europa 04-01-14 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16631320)
It's really hard to find fixies around here. The best brands are probably airwalk and purefix. I like purefix's bikes but their frames have the hold for installing a bottle holder which spoils the whole thing for me... I knew airwalk doesn't sell the best bikes but they are probably the only shop dedicated to fixies in my country. There are no shops that allow you to customize every single part other than airwalk and purefix. Ordering from the US may be an option but I'm pretty sure shipping would cost a bomb and I don't know what brands are good. Imagine me going through all the trouble and money to get a bike from the US only to find out the quality is bad.

Be nice if you told us where you were so we could offer suggestions.
However, fg bikes aren't overly available where you are. Bikesdirect and others refuse to ship outside of the US for stupid reasons so you'll have to rely on someone reliable, honest and who understands fg ... so I'd suggest you drop a line to Retrogression The owner's already had a growl in this thread and he does ship to places further than his own back yard.

Failing that, you say you like the Purefix. The NEW Purefix have been getting some favourable comments of late so look around on the forum to see what's been said (not sure of any actual road tests though). Not buying a bike because it has bottle mounts is just daft. No matter where you live, sooner or later you're going to want to go for a longer ride and you WILL need to keep hydrated, which is why we fit bottle cages in the first place. Until you decide to fit a bottle cage, just leave the screws in the holes.

cheremyy 04-01-14 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by TugaDude (Post 16633120)
Personally I would chemically remove the paint (shouldn't be hard!) sand away any traces of rust then prime, paint and clearcoat. Takes some time and skill but can be very rewarding. Or just have it powdercoated.

You mean remove the paint of the whole frame or just the areas that are rusted?



Originally Posted by europa (Post 16633455)
so I'd suggest you drop a line to Retrogression The owner's already had a growl in this thread and he does ship to places further than his own back yard.

Thanks for the site, their products are looking pretty good. Might consider.

cheremyy 04-01-14 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Philasteve (Post 16632927)
That's pretty crazy man, you got some good advice though. My Surly Steamroller has been ridden threw snow/sleet/rain, and is only a little rusty at the fork and rear frame dropouts. I guess it's just prepared better, my surlys been through 3 winters already too. Ride it till it's unsafe or invest in a nicer frameset.


Ikr. Usually when I go cycling I cycle with a group of friends. Our bikes go through the same thing together. Some of my friends even keep their bikes on the outside. Some of my friends bought a cheaper frame of the same brand. But my frame is the only one that is experiencing this.

Philasteve 04-01-14 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16633657)
Ikr. Usually when I go cycling I cycle with a group of friends. Our bikes go through the same thing together. Some of my friends even keep their bikes on the outside. Some of my friends bought a cheaper frame of the same brand. But my frame is the only one that is experiencing this.

I'm guessing the quality control on those frames isn't exactly the best.

JohnDThompson 04-01-14 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16630410)
I got a crmo 4130 steel frame and it has started to rust from the inside(paint is bubbling) after riding for less than a year.

If you are the original owner, I would pursue a warranty claim. I have steel frames I ride in all weather conditions that are over 40 years old with no such rust damage.

TugaDude 04-01-14 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16633649)
You mean remove the paint of the whole frame or just the areas that are rusted?

You certainly could treat just the area that is actively rusting. But it is likely that the same conditions that caused the initial rust will generate rusting elsewhere.


Thanks for the site, their products are looking pretty good. Might consider.

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cheremyy 04-01-14 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by TugaDude (Post 16633792)
You certainly could treat just the area that is actively rusting. But it is likely that the same conditions that caused the initial rust will generate rusting elsewhere.
...

lol thanks...

WestPablo 04-02-14 09:02 AM

Sell your current bike...

Once it's sold, get a Fuji Feather, Felt Brougham, Schwinn Madison, or something better.

After you get your new bike, then use the frame saver! :D

cheremyy 04-03-14 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by WestPablo (Post 16634714)
Sell your current bike...

Once it's sold, get a Fuji Feather, Felt Brougham, Schwinn Madison, or something better.

After you get your new bike, then use the frame saver! :D


Actually I already have statebicycles in mind. But I'll look into the bikes you mentioned...

Cute Boy Horse 04-03-14 07:48 PM

First you buy an airwalk, then you mention purefix, now you look at state.

Why do you like really crappy bikes so much? You find better for free with captain crunch.

WestPablo 04-04-14 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Cute Boy Horse (Post 16640073)
First you buy an airwalk, then you mention purefix, now you look at state.

Why do you like really crappy bikes so much? You find better for free with captain crunch.

+1

First of all, always shoot for chromoly when buying a steel frame. Those low grade hi-tensile steel frames are almost always found on lower tier bicycles.

Remember: Chromoly Steel

cheremyy 04-05-14 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by WestPablo (Post 16641873)
+1

First of all, always shoot for chromoly when buying a steel frame. Those low grade hi-tensile steel frames are almost always found on lower tier bicycles.

Remember: Chromoly Steel

Are state bicycles bad? Lol...

europa 04-05-14 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16643407)
Are state bicycles bad? Lol...

I haven't heard anyone claim they were as good as merely 'bad' ... apart from that 'road test' we had on here. Remember that thread?

Cyril 04-05-14 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by europa (Post 16643422)
I haven't heard anyone claim they were as good as merely 'bad' ... apart from that 'road test' we had on here. Remember that thread?

How could I forget. It's the pimple on the ass of my time spent here.

WestPablo 04-05-14 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16643407)
are state bicycles bad? Lol...

Chromoly Steel!

Get a used bike. It doesn't matter. Just get one made of chromoly steel that has no rust issues :thumb:

stilltooslow 04-05-14 08:08 AM

And be sure to wipe it down after you use it. The most corrosive liquid that you're dealing with is your own sweat, and nearly any steel frame will eventually succumb to its properties if not wiped down after rides.

Scrodzilla 04-05-14 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by cheremyy (Post 16643407)
Are state bicycles bad? Lol...

Is Taco Bell bad?

Cute Boy Horse 04-05-14 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by europa (Post 16643422)
I haven't heard anyone claim they were as good as merely 'bad' ... apart from that 'road test' we had on here. Remember that thread?

Who could forget a guy who didn't know you have to put air in the tyres?

I feel bad for his old bike. The guy thought the wheels were bad because of the brand name of the tyre.

Tracy94 04-05-14 04:02 PM

You can get rust stopper which turns the oxidised metal to a more stable form stopping the rust in it's tracks. I've used it on a lot of things.


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