Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

What makes a bike proper?

Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

What makes a bike proper?

Old 06-12-14, 02:37 PM
  #26  
North Coast Joe
Senior Member
 
North Coast Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: high above the pounding surf of Lake Erie
Posts: 601

Bikes: Couple of rigid MTB's and a fixed gear

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 60 Post(s)
Liked 22 Times in 11 Posts
T-Buckets, Fat Fenders, Rat Rods & vintage Ferraris are all proper. Maybe not to an OCD fan of one variety, but they're all appreciated by mechanically inclined folk.

I kinda' like looking at 'em all.... OK, maybe not the hybrids or Thrusters.
North Coast Joe is offline  
Old 06-12-14, 03:06 PM
  #27  
WestPablo
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,535
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
A "proper" bicycle is one, upon which after mounting, you pay particular attention to your manner of speech, your style of attire, and your public demeanor. Yes! Now that would be a most "proper" bicycle!
WestPablo is offline  
Old 06-12-14, 05:45 PM
  #28  
Panza
Keep calm, Cycle on
Thread Starter
 
Panza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: New England
Posts: 844

Bikes: Pinarello F8, Bianchi ∞, Colnago SS, Niner MTB

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
Proper? IMO, proper is when a theme is chosen before the build, and adhered to all the way through to completion. I like ANY kind of bike when the build is executed "properly".
"Proper is when a theme is chosen before the build and adhered to all the way through to completion."

I think this one is the best definition yet.
Panza is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 02:24 AM
  #29  
905 
waiting for my name tag
 
905's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 260
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 29 Times in 14 Posts
Any exploration into the definition of a "Proper" bike requires a trip to Plato's Cave to contemplate his Theory of Forms and the highest and most fundamental kinds of reality, as "Only knowledge of the Forms constitutes real knowledge." Or, you could just click here on the megathread to see my bike.

Call it predictable and safe, call it lacking a certain je ne sais quoi, but it establishes a baseline reference. Nothing is out of proportion. The tubes are not fantastical shapes. There is no disharmony in geometry, no crass advertising to spoil the view or sensibilities. Observe also the lack of paint, so often a springboard to bad taste.

While it won't be everybody's idea of a pinup, it should be helpful in the larger dialogue to be had about ęsthetics and the beauty of truth.

Originally Posted by WestPablo View Post
A "Proper" bike is owned by the Rothschilds, ridden in the Hamptons on a sunny summer afternoon, where you can place your fixie unlocked, just outside the Almond Al Fresco Bistro. You can there have your server stand by your side, as he spreads Grey Poupon upon your Oscar Meyer Weiner!
Spot on, old chap. No matter how much money one has to blow on Grey Poupon, one can never truly "own" beauty. We can merely cluck at the absence of it, with tongue relocated to cheek.
__________________
A Freewheeling Manifesto





Last edited by 905; 06-13-14 at 02:39 AM. Reason: ligature love
905 is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 03:04 AM
  #30  
krobinson103
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Incheon, South Korea
Posts: 2,836

Bikes: Nothing amazing... cheap old 21 speed mtb

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Umm... All my bikes are 'proper' for the purpose I built them for. I don't care about aero tubing or flashy logos or pretty vintage components. I care that it performs the function it was built for as well as possible. pretty is just a bonus. I can't ride pretty but useless.

Example. This is my most useful and by far prettiest bike but many would call it an abomination of mismatched parts...

Attached Images
File Type: jpg
tie fighter fuji.jpg (95.3 KB, 40 views)
krobinson103 is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 04:14 AM
  #31  
seau grateau
Senior Member
 
seau grateau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,939

Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1327 Post(s)
Liked 370 Times in 179 Posts
Campy.
seau grateau is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 04:48 AM
  #32  
europa
Grumpy Old Bugga
 
europa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,229

Bikes: Hillbrick, Malvern Star Oppy S2, Europa (R.I.P.)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 370 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Campy.
We're after what makes a bike 'proper', not what spoils the effect
europa is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 05:30 AM
  #33  
big chainring 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 7,056
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 666 Post(s)
Liked 417 Times in 218 Posts
What makes a bike proper?

A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
big chainring is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 05:46 AM
  #34  
rmpmcdermott
Member
 
rmpmcdermott's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 36

Bikes: Bianchi Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
In that case I'll go with a proper bike being Italian.
rmpmcdermott is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 08:15 AM
  #35  
JeremyLC
Senior Member
 
JeremyLC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 1,414

Bikes: 2008 Surly Cross Check, 2010 Fuji Track Comp

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 255 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
Umm... All my bikes are 'proper' for the purpose I built them for. I don't care about aero tubing or flashy logos or pretty vintage components. I care that it performs the function it was built for as well as possible. pretty is just a bonus. I can't ride pretty but useless.

Example. This is my most useful and by far prettiest bike but many would call it an abomination of mismatched parts...

I'd say it looks well suited to its intended use. I would also say that saddle angle makes me worry a bit for your wrists.
JeremyLC is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 08:34 AM
  #36  
WestPablo
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,535
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
Oh! You mean like the Peugeot!

....Alright then, I think I'm beginning to finally see the light!

Now, if only I could just find one of those darned things for an example
WestPablo is offline  
Old 06-13-14, 12:15 PM
  #37  
seau grateau
Senior Member
 
seau grateau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,939

Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1327 Post(s)
Liked 370 Times in 179 Posts
Originally Posted by europa View Post
We're after what makes a bike 'proper', not what spoils the effect
seau grateau is offline  
Old 06-14-14, 09:56 PM
  #38  
howeeee
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
its got 2 wheels and you can haul ### with it
howeeee is offline  
Old 06-15-14, 03:11 PM
  #39  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 9,145

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), Cilo Road Frame, Proteus frame, Ti 26 MTB

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2577 Post(s)
Liked 1,648 Times in 1,100 Posts
A proper bike should wear a tuxedo and speak like Sean Connery (Bond, James Bond)
veganbikes is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SpeedofLite
Classic & Vintage
11
12-12-18 07:59 PM
DMC707
Classic & Vintage
12
01-12-18 04:34 PM
Unkle Rico
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
24
01-15-15 07:50 PM
thenomad
Classic & Vintage
16
03-04-12 08:47 AM
91MF
Classic & Vintage
19
03-08-10 07:25 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.