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Pulling the trigger on a Cinelli Vigorelli

Old 07-24-14, 10:00 AM
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Pulling the trigger on a Cinelli Vigorelli

After a long internal struggle about "should I buy a fixed gear or another road bike?" I've decided to try and build a pink Cinelli Vigorelli because it looks gorgeous. I have some components figured out but I'm not sure if they are reasonable. Other things I have no clue about how to judge or what to consider.
  • Vigorelli frame 58cm
  • Omnium crankset 1/8"
  • Shimano Dura Ace Cog 1/8"
  • Izumi ECO Chain 1/8"
  • Cinelli MASH 75 Stem 90mm
  • Crew Bike Co Compact Road Handlebar
  • Crew Bike Co Carbon Fiber Seat Post

I could use some help figuring out the right wheels for this build, if I need anything special for the frame's integrated headset (where does the stem go? surely the steerer isn't precut), and if I've made a grave error with my combination of components.

My local shop made my dilemma worse by showing me a Specialized Langster Pro 2014 which I found for about the same cost as this build. Should I scrap the build and go for a built bike?

Thank you for your help, I know I'm all over the place here :/
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An integrated headset means that the headset comes with the frameset. Nothing really special or to worry about considering they're cartridge-based.
All you have left to do is get your LBS to cut the steerer tube to length and pound in the starnut that comes too.

As far as parts go, you're good. /Stereotypical cinelli build
You forgot wheels. Are they going to be the customary H+son archetypes to formula hubs?
You forgot saddle too.
It takes a 31.6mm post BTW.

Also, how did you determine your stem size?
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If you're not sure on piecing this bike together then consider the compete bike from the shop. You can always try again when you become more knowledgeable.
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Old 07-24-14, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
As far as parts go, you're good. /Stereotypical cinelli build
You forgot wheels. Are they going to be the customary H+son archetypes to formula hubs?
You forgot saddle too.
It takes a 31.6mm post BTW.

Also, how did you determine your stem size?
I already have a saddle, that's why I didn't include it. Wheels are still a mystery for me, but any reason not to use the H+son Formation Face rims and a Formula TH-61/62 hub?

I determined the stem size from knowing that a 58cm frame would be a bit big for my height (6'1") and getting a shorter stem to account for that. I am most likely wrong in my approach but it was the most reasonable conclusion I could draw. Is there a better way?

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Old 07-24-14, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
If you're not sure on piecing this bike together then consider the compete bike from the shop. You can always try again when you become more knowledgeable.
I was thinking the same but I figured I would like to build something with my hands and find out quickly if my reasoning and intuition are right or wrong.

Following the idea of buying a complete bike, is it even reasonable to go with a $1500 Langster Pro as my first fixed gear? Would getting a $500 Aventon Mataro or Unknown Singularity be a wiser choice?

Thanks for the advice!
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Old 07-24-14, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spacellama View Post
I already have a saddle, that's why I didn't include it. Wheels are still a mystery for me, but any reason not to use the H+son Formation Face rims and a Formula TH-61/62 hub?

I determined the stem size from knowing that a 58cm frame would be a bit big for my height (6'1") and getting a shorter stem to account for that. I am most likely wrong in my approach but it was the most reasonable conclusion I could draw. Is there a better way?
Nothing wrong with that combination considering that a good majority of cinelli ownes run it.

Also, you should consider additional bodily proportions beside just going from height.
Try this: Bike Fit Calculator | Find Your Bike Size | Competitive Cyclist
With this for reference/ accompanyment: Revisionist Theory of Bicycle Sizing

It may seem like a lot of work but it's worth it in the long run than half-guessing and buying a wrong sized frame.
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Old 07-24-14, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
It may seem like a lot of work but it's worth it in the long run than half-guessing and buying a wrong sized frame.
I rode a 56cm Langster and it felt pretty good. I'll take some measurements to find the perfect fit. Thanks for the links!
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Old 07-24-14, 12:38 PM
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Why are you aiming a firearm at a cinelli in the first place? Seems wasteful imo.
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Guns are dangerous, please wear a helmet.
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And a condom.
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Guns are dangerous, please wear a helmet.
Where are the mods? Time to lock this hole.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob View Post
Why are you aiming a firearm at a cinelli in the first place? Seems wasteful imo.
I've read good things about the frame and I think it looks gorgeous. I'm trying to build a decent bike that will last me a few years at least. If that means spending a bit more on a frame set, I don't mind doing so.
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Old 07-24-14, 03:53 PM
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My advice would be to stay away from a carbon post. They just scare me a little. Seen them break.

Also- don't get omniums unless you plan on getting a phil or king BB. I hear Scrod just stocked a few phils!

For wheels- check out Stans ZTR 340s laced to something like dura ace hubs. They're tubeless, they're strong, and they're damn light.
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Old 07-24-14, 05:05 PM
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I Just finished building a Vigorelli last month for a B-day gift to myself. I wasn't planning on buying Cinelli either, but PBK had the frame-set on sale for $580 shipped so I figured at that price I couldn't loose. So far I'm pretty happy with it and have no complaints.
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Originally Posted by Shotland View Post
Also- don't get omniums unless you plan on getting a phil or king BB. I hear Scrod just stocked a few phils!
Interesting. Any particular reason?
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Originally Posted by One4Five145 View Post
I Just finished building a Vigorelli last month for a B-day gift to myself. I wasn't planning on buying Cinelli either, but PBK had the frame-set on sale for $580 shipped so I figured at that price I couldn't loose. So far I'm pretty happy with it and have no complaints.
Wow, that's dirt cheap compared to their market price. Was your build similar to mine?
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Originally Posted by spacellama View Post
Interesting. Any particular reason?
The bottom bracket included with them is low quality and tends to fail after a couple hundred of miles. The phil & chris king ones can probably out last the original owner.
Sram has plenty of reasons to include a cheap BB because of their financial bottom line and they conveniently offer higher end GXP bb's that they want you to buy.
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Ive been pleased w my omni bb's. Maybe run them stock for a bit first then upgrade later. The cranksets are awesome especially if youre a big guy like me and put some newton meters down. 58cm frame means maybe you too
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Originally Posted by spacellama View Post
Wow, that's dirt cheap compared to their market price. Was your build similar to mine?

Yeah I suppose similar to yours. Its nothing special your typical Cinelli build. 3T Stem, 3T Carbon Post, Omniums, Archetypes laced to philwoods.
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Originally Posted by spacellama View Post
Interesting. Any particular reason?
Like people have said people have experienced early BB bearing failure. Others have had no problems at all. I have read that If your BB shell hasn't been faced you can have problems with premature bearing wear with external bb. I guess some bike Mfg. don't have their BB shell's faced.
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My advice would be to stay away from a carbon post. They just scare me a little. Seen them break.
Meh, We've all seen every part on a bike brake. steel, aluminum, or carbon. Unless you're getting a Thompson, get carbon.
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Don't worry about your "cheap" bottom bracket or headset wearing out until it does. It probably won't.
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Originally Posted by Cute Boy Horse View Post
Don't worry about your "cheap" bottom bracket or headset wearing out until it does. It probably won't.
Says Mr. Doesn't Ride Enough.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Guns are dangerous, please wear a helmet.

please...
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Since nobody asked... my advice would be to get whatever carbon parts you want, but don't install them without a torque wrench.
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