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Robofunc 09-28-14 02:34 PM

Grass track frame options
 
I'm looking for a steel track frame with clearance for 28-32c tires to try grass track with. I can only spend about $250 on a frame ATM, so my options are limited. I'll probably just get a kilo wt unless there are any other good options at that price point.

carleton 09-28-14 03:01 PM

Guys, I sent Robofunc here from Track Racing. He's looking to race on a grass track using bigger tires. Any help would be appreciated.

You guys should look into it, btw:


seau grateau 09-28-14 03:14 PM

Looks fun. Kilo WT is probably your best bet at that pricepoint.

AristoNYC 09-28-14 03:22 PM

Yep, at that pricepoint I would go that route.

carleton 09-28-14 04:00 PM

Kilo WT

Robofunc 09-28-14 09:29 PM

:)

Owlex 09-28-14 09:32 PM

There's a dedicated grass track on the outskirts of the city I live in, but I've never been there. Interesting vid, I might have to take a daytrip out there to look at a grass track in person sometime.

bro 09-29-14 12:11 AM

Mercier Kilo WT Wide Tire Track Bike Single Speed Frame Fork Set Reynolds Steel | eBay

since they only have the complete kilo wt in a 49

mihlbach 09-29-14 04:04 AM

Motobecane Jury on bike island.

IAmSam 09-29-14 05:05 AM

I am currently in the process of building a pretty low budget faux grass track bike, intending it for gravel-grinding and neighborhood tom-foolery.

When I got sick of searching for a "vintage" bike with big tire clearance in my size to rebuild, and had the bright idea of going with new, due to price I considered something from among the Motobecane Track/Messenger varieties. During my pre-purchase research I was advised:


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17114238)
I Have a Motobecane Messenger with tires that measure out to about 30mm with a front brake and no rear brake. There appears to be sufficient clearance remaining to easily accommodate up to 700x32c tires, perhaps even 700x35c.

I also thought very seriously about:
On-One Pompino Frame 2011
On-One Pompetamine 2012 Frame

But before pulling the trigger on any of those, I found just the right old Raleigh on my local CL to use for my vision of a grass racer.

Now, of course, I have a half-done project sitting in my shed instead of a bike to ride...but it should be pretty cool if I ever do finish :rolleyes:

Robofunc 09-29-14 08:28 AM

Thanks for those links, IAmSam.

Get it done—you'll probably love it. I have a nice conversion w/ 32c tires I use as a mildly sporty "do it all" bike, but it's a bit heavy and has rather relaxed geometry compared to what typically gets used for grass track.

stryper 09-29-14 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 17170927)
Motobecane Jury on bike island.

I haven't heard anyone mention that in years. I think the chrome kilo knocked that one out of recommendation rotation.

I built up an On-One Pompino for the summer and have been pretty happy OP. The front can probably fit a 40mm, but rear really can't do larger than a 32mm.

Robofunc 09-30-14 10:03 AM

From what I've read, grass track frames have aggressive geo like other track frames, but clearance for slightly wider tires (think CX tires in the 28-32 range). Tires don't need to be huge and there's no need for things like fenders/bottles/other commuter-type stuff.

If I end up really getting into it I'll probably get something like a 2014 Soma Rush.

TejanoTrackie 09-30-14 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Robofunc (Post 17174806)
If I end up really getting into it I'll probably get something like a 2014 Soma Rush.

While I truly love my Soma Rush, just keep in mind that it has a threaded steerer tube that requires a threaded headset and a quill stem. If it were me, I'd look at something similarly priced like an All-City Big Block, which also has track geometry and clearance for wide tires.

Robofunc 09-30-14 11:00 AM

Good point

Robofunc 01-19-15 09:35 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I got a kilo wt and built it up with components from the co op and my parts bin. Trying to get a few folks together to give this grass track thing a try. Pardon the crappy phone pic.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=429345


Update—slightly better photo:

https://app.box.com/shared/static/vt...de***ybjv1.jpg

TejanoTrackie 01-19-15 09:48 PM

That's totally cool. Have fun.

50voltphantom 01-20-15 08:54 AM

Solid build.

Jared. 01-20-15 12:10 PM

Grass track pictures when you get out there please. Looks/sounds like it would be a lot of fun.

nightfly 01-20-15 12:47 PM

You can get either a threaded or threadless fork for the Rush or at least you could in the past. I know I ordered a threadless fork for my older Rush frame at first and returned it for a threaded.

Soma Lugged Track Fork - Outside Outfitters

It's 1 inch threadless but easy to shim to 1 1/8" for standard threadless stems.

Also at that price point for a frame you could get a Pake Rum Runner which will fit 28s.


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17174905)
While I truly love my Soma Rush, just keep in mind that it has a threaded steerer tube that requires a threaded headset and a quill stem. If it were me, I'd look at something similarly priced like an All-City Big Block, which also has track geometry and clearance for wide tires.


TejanoTrackie 01-20-15 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by nightfly (Post 17485359)
You can get either a threaded or threadless fork for the Rush or at least you could in the past. I know I ordered a threadless fork for my older Rush frame at first and returned it for a threaded.

Soma Lugged Track Fork - Outside Outfitters

It's 1 inch threadless but easy to shim to 1 1/8" for standard threadless stems.

Also at that price point for a frame you could get a Pake Rum Runner which will fit 28s.

Soma no longer sells the Rush as a frame only, so you get a threaded fork whether you want it or not, and they don't offer a threadless option. I bought my 2011 khaki Rush as a frame only, and opted for a threadless fork.

Robofunc 01-20-15 01:40 PM

Thanks guys. I'l be sure to share photos of our first attempt.

T13 01-20-15 02:20 PM

I didn't even know this was a "thing". Interesting.

carleton 01-20-15 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by T13 (Post 17485623)
I didn't even know this was a "thing". Interesting.

Yeah, it's much bigger in Europe and Australia. I really think it could and should take off here in the US, especially with the big CX scene here.

Robofunc 01-20-15 05:11 PM

Totally. My build is basically a fixed CX bike. Clement LAS tires, salsa bell lap bars.


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