Need advice on this bike.
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Need advice on this bike.
Hi. So i'm looking into turning this bike into a fixie, but i don't know if its sturdy enough.
RETRO Racer 1988mod DBS Internazionale - FINN Torget
I'm pretty new to the general bike market so my knowledge is rather limited..
RETRO Racer 1988mod DBS Internazionale - FINN Torget
I'm pretty new to the general bike market so my knowledge is rather limited..
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Looks like a darned good starting point. The frame has horizontal dropouts so you can adjust the chain tension. The cranks and brakes will serve well on a fixed gear. You'll want a rear wheel with a track hub. That bike should make a very nice fixed gear. Go for it.
Sturdyness is not an issue. Fixed gear bikes require no stronger frames than any other sort of bike. It's only when you start jumping kerbs and doing tricks and riding down stairs that you need stronger bits.
Sturdyness is not an issue. Fixed gear bikes require no stronger frames than any other sort of bike. It's only when you start jumping kerbs and doing tricks and riding down stairs that you need stronger bits.
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Looks like a darned good starting point. The frame has horizontal dropouts so you can adjust the chain tension. The cranks and brakes will serve well on a fixed gear. You'll want a rear wheel with a track hub. That bike should make a very nice fixed gear. Go for it.
Sturdyness is not an issue. Fixed gear bikes require no stronger frames than any other sort of bike. It's only when you start jumping kerbs and doing tricks and riding down stairs that you need stronger bits.
Sturdyness is not an issue. Fixed gear bikes require no stronger frames than any other sort of bike. It's only when you start jumping kerbs and doing tricks and riding down stairs that you need stronger bits.
I have ridden a fixie (borrowing my friends) for about 2 weeks now and i will never look back. It is a truly amazing feeling. The only annoying thing about his bike is that it feels quite heavy.. It weighs in at 11.6kg i believe. I googled around a bit and people have rather mixed opinions on fixie weights..
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Weight is utterly irrelevant. By the time you combine your weight and the bike's, a kg or three makes no difference at all. I regularly ride with a heavy pannier stuffed with kit and I don't notice it. You're getting a good steel frame made with good quality steel (Tange is a quality Japanese brand), it'll be a fine bike.
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That bike definitely does not weigh 3-5 kg. You should be able to get it under 10 kg as a fg conversion.
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Weight is utterly irrelevant. By the time you combine your weight and the bike's, a kg or three makes no difference at all. I regularly ride with a heavy pannier stuffed with kit and I don't notice it. You're getting a good steel frame made with good quality steel (Tange is a quality Japanese brand), it'll be a fine bike.
So for arguments sake would it be a better option to turn this bike into a fixie then? Specialized Globe singlespeed - FINN Torget
I mean moneywise anyway.
It is already SS so i'd just need to change the hub or what?
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It'd be a shame to butcher that bike into a conversion. Also note that dedicated fixed gear frames have higher bottom brackets to avoid pedal strike when cornering. Not to mention shorter chainstays and overall wheelbase for tighter handling. Converting an old frame you already have is ome thing, but if you're shelling out for a new frame anyways, get a fixed/track specific one.
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It'd be a shame to butcher that bike into a conversion. Also note that dedicated fixed gear frames have higher bottom brackets to avoid pedal strike when cornering. Not to mention shorter chainstays and overall wheelbase for tighter handling. Converting an old frame you already have is ome thing, but if you're shelling out for a new frame anyways, get a fixed/track specific one.
Now as a final note, how much should i pay for an old frame? The 1988 bike guy wants 400 USD for the whole bike.. I have the money for it but idk how much i should put into it yeah.
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It'd be a shame to butcher that bike into a conversion. Also note that dedicated fixed gear frames have higher bottom brackets to avoid pedal strike when cornering. Not to mention shorter chainstays and overall wheelbase for tighter handling. Converting an old frame you already have is ome thing, but if you're shelling out for a new frame anyways, get a fixed/track specific one.
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The simplest route is to buy a complete rear wheel with a flip flop fixed/ free hub so you can run either a fixed cog with a lockring or a singlespeed freewheel. If the rear dropout spacing is 120 mm, you are set, but if it is wider such as 126mm, then you will need to add spacers to the hub axle.
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It'll be a lot better in the long run to go ahead a familiarize yourself with as much as you can right now. Like Tejano said, the easiest way is to buy a complete rear wheel, then just making sure you have a proper chain line.
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The frame is more than I would pay, but I'm sure there are others that would disagree with me
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He will also need to buy new spokes, since the length will be different. It will definitely cost more than just buying a completely new rear wheel.
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It'd be a shame to butcher that bike into a conversion. Also note that dedicated fixed gear frames have higher bottom brackets to avoid pedal strike when cornering. Not to mention shorter chainstays and overall wheelbase for tighter handling. Converting an old frame you already have is ome thing, but if you're shelling out for a new frame anyways, get a fixed/track specific one.
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I would just keep it geared; Shimano 105SC is one of the most dependable older groupsets out there with far superior dual pivot brakes (which you should most definiately keep in the conversion process, tektro sells modern clones of these essentially). This generation of 105 helped define and solidify the 105 family we know today, obscuring the gap between entry and high end while bringing the best japanese of cycling componentry innovations, at the time, to the masses.
An easily serviceable groupset with plenty of cheap replacement/ backward compatible parts and spares (even new rubber SLX brake hoods) on ebay, although I have a good hunch everything still works but just needs a good cleaning and minor adjustment.
Either way, if you choose to convert it, just remember to not toss out the parts as you can easily find a market for them.
An easily serviceable groupset with plenty of cheap replacement/ backward compatible parts and spares (even new rubber SLX brake hoods) on ebay, although I have a good hunch everything still works but just needs a good cleaning and minor adjustment.
Either way, if you choose to convert it, just remember to not toss out the parts as you can easily find a market for them.
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Bearing in mind Leuky's point, which is worth considering, I'd buy a new rear wheel, maybe a wheelset to keep things matched. It the easiest way and the wheels can always be used on future projects - my first fg wheel set are currently in their third frame. Once you start mucking about with bikes, you usually find you keep changing things and one or two frames because the princesses that get a whole new outfit every time you feel bored.
And remember, never do anything you can't reverse.
And remember, never do anything you can't reverse.
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Lots of great advice, thanks guys
. I'll buy a new wheelset then and screw the old frame. If you could recommend me a good wheelset that would be great. I' probably have to order off Amazon/Ebay as i live in Norway and the options here are limited..
. I'll buy a new wheelset then and screw the old frame. If you could recommend me a good wheelset that would be great. I' probably have to order off Amazon/Ebay as i live in Norway and the options here are limited..



