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Help choosing a wheelset

Old 03-19-15, 12:44 PM
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Help choosing a wheelset

So I narrowed down my choice to two wheelsets.

One:
H plus son tb14 rims
DA 7600 hubs
dt swiss champion 2.0 spokes
brass nipples
$400

Two:
H plus son tb14 rims
Formula hubs
sapim race 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes
alloy nipples
$310

Both are 32h wheels, weigh about the same, though option 2 is about 200g lighter, but I am not as concerned with weight. The major difference between two options is the spokes double butted vs straight and hubs loose ball vs cartridge. I don't mind doing maintenance on the loose ball bearings, I currently use a loose ball bb and do prefer it to the cartridge one I had before. Any advise is appreciated.
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IDK what advice you are expecting, but it sounds like you prefer Option 1.
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I guess the reason I'm getting a new set of wheels is because I wore out the rims on my old one. And those were mavic op/ formula with straight gauge spokes.
I am intrigued by the double butted spokes , as they have a supposedly more comfortable ride, though I never tried those myself. On the other hand, the da hubs seem more like an investment, where if the rims wear out again I can just get them relaced with new ones as opposed to getting a brand new wheel set.
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Your spoke choice has no impact on the ride. The reason for db spokes is to save some weight and reduce wind drag, although the improvement is minimal with 32h and 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes. Dura Ace hubs will last a lifetime if properly adjusted and maintained.
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The $310 option. Because it's cheaper.
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Option 1!

Dura ace 7600 hubs roll really nicely.
For the naysayers, people have been running loose ball w/ no where near the seals on DA 7600 hubs and been just fine for decades.
I've repacked old looseball hubs cannibalized from daily ridden and left to rot wheelsets where the grease was still fresh.

Also brass nipples > aluminum nipples all the way hands down.
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thanks for your input guys, I am leaning towards DAs now but was under the mistaken impression that spokes would make more of a difference. The cartridge bearings are a pain to replace, I had to wait a week for them to arrive in the mail.
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Originally Posted by Ils
The cartridge bearings are a pain to replace, I had to wait a week for them to arrive in the mail.
Huh?
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Huh?
The availability of certain sizes of cartridge bearings is spotty here. Couldn't find any shop that stocked the specific size I needed so I had to order them online, with customs and shipping it took about a week to arrive. Although the actual replacement took 5 minutes, I hate having to wait a week for a simple replacement part.
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They're both nice wheelsets. I'd buy whichever one will make you happier when see them bolted on your bike. DA looks way better than Formula IMO.
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Originally Posted by Ils
The availability of certain sizes of cartridge bearings is spotty here. Couldn't find any shop that stocked the specific size I needed so I had to order them online, with customs and shipping it took about a week to arrive. Although the actual replacement took 5 minutes, I hate having to wait a week for a simple replacement part.
What's yer location???

Bearings are something I always keep a couple sets of in my parts box. When they go, they GO. I used to swear by loose ball, but I prefer cartridges these days. Loose balls only in my headsets now.
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Duraace all the way. Fine Italian components always are the best even if these Italian components are actually from Japan. The Shimano track stuff has always been a nice look and performance.

Also brass nipples all the way. Yes alloy is a touch lighter but if you are competing you have weight minimums anyway and brass makes a stronger wheel. If you are not competing weight doesn't really matter a whole lot at least in that area because you can still make a pretty light wheelset but also make it a little more durable which makes more sense unless you are loaded with money to buy more wheels.
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Thanks guys, I ended up going with DAs. The weight for me is not a concern, my only concerns were the strength of the wheel and value for money. Not to start a cartridge vs loose ball war here but if given the choice i do prefer loose ball bearing. I found a huge difference when I switched from DA 7610 bb to a hatta 9400, not sure if the hub bearing will make as much of a difference but I shall see.
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