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Old 05-31-15, 09:57 PM
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Cyclist Struck......

...again. Condolences to her family.
Bicyclist, 66, dies after being struck on Laguna Hills street - The Orange County Register
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Old 06-01-15, 08:05 AM
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I've ridden in that area many times, so this news gave me the shivers.

RIP, and condolences to her family.
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Old 06-01-15, 10:39 AM
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Tragic, I ride that road frequently. Don't care for using the side path myself.

RIP.
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Old 06-01-15, 03:03 PM
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That intersection has been an accident waiting to happen, it almost got me several years ago The curb drop essentially aims a cyclist out into a street with no bike lane. The wrong type of drop has been built. The existing one is used when there is a need for crossing a street either way, but as you can see, there is not even a sidewalk on the other side of Paseo De Valencia. In fact, there are specific no pedestrian crossing signs. Take a look at google street view, and you can see the crosswalk has been moved away from the curb drop into Kennington Drive. Just bad planning all around, with tragic results.
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Old 06-01-15, 03:28 PM
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Sad, and condolences to the family... but a reminder to us all to ride AWARE... conscious of our surroundings and... if the situation is dangerous, stop and think instead of just reacting. I also feel for the car driver... tragic for him and his family as well... PS... I hate that strength of road and tend to avoid it at all costs...
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Old 06-01-15, 04:50 PM
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Could someone please link the online map of that intersection? I found Pso de Valencia, but not Kennington Dr..

And, by the way, quote: "Day was taken to Saddleback Memorial Medical Center in Laguna Hills," How ironic is the name of the medical center? Wonder why?
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Old 06-01-15, 05:02 PM
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https://www.google.com/maps/search/p...!6m1!1e1?hl=en
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Old 06-01-15, 05:12 PM
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Old 06-01-15, 05:35 PM
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Wow sad new to hear my condolences go out to her family. I was supposed to ride that route last Monday, but shortened the route a little by taking El toro to pch instead. I was a little concerned on el toro and was forced to take the lane for about 2 miles when the bike lane ended and no sidewalk was available.
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Old 06-01-15, 06:49 PM
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Sad. My condolences to Ms. Day's family and friends.

I sometimes feel like roadies in SoCal are risking their lives each time we are out. Just too many darn cars and inattentive/distracted/mean spirited drivers. Just yesterday, on two different occasions, two motorists sped up very dangerously close to me at points where I was about to go from a cyclists lane to join straight-ahead roads.The first was on PCH, going North just after that bridge in Newport Beach just before Dover Street. The other was on Second Avenue in Seal Beach, again just over another bridge, and trying to continue on Second Avenue instead of hanging a right to go by the water.

I feel both drivers were just kinda hostile the way they sped up, instead of slowing down behind me, especially since I had my left hand straight out signaling my intent to merge and continue straight ahead..

Be careful out there!
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Old 06-01-15, 10:32 PM
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Is there information about exactly which part of the bike trail she was on, and where the vehicle was that hit her? From Google Earth and the map it's hard for me to picture how she entered the vehicle lane from the bike trail to avoid oncoming cyclists. How close is the vehicle lane from the bike trail?
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Old 06-02-15, 08:16 AM
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all these crazy Cagers on the road are the reason why I will only ride early in the morning. RIP!!
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Old 06-02-15, 11:22 AM
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Is there information about exactly which part of the bike trail she was on, and where the vehicle was that hit her? From Google Earth and the map it's hard for me to picture how she entered the vehicle lane from the bike trail to avoid oncoming cyclists. How close is the vehicle lane from the bike trail?
My understanding is that she was on the bike trail heading south. When she reached the Kensington crossing, she went into the northbound traffic lane to avoid other riders going northbound on the bike path.
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Old 06-02-15, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vol View Post
Is there information about exactly which part of the bike trail she was on, and where the vehicle was that hit her? From Google Earth and the map it's hard for me to picture how she entered the vehicle lane from the bike trail to avoid oncoming cyclists. How close is the vehicle lane from the bike trail?
Its explained here
Update: 66-year old woman killed riding her bike in Laguna Hills |

see the pic with the drawn in graphics.
Michiko was riding against traffic on the bike path, street side, and as she entered kensington street, riders from the opposing direction gave her no room, and her reaction was to move right, leading to the bike/car collision.

What needs to happen when a bike trail goes out into a crosswalk is all riders need to prepare to dismount or slow down and freeup a foot. It makes no sense for riders in both directions to expect to continue at full speed going into a crosswalk.
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Old 06-02-15, 12:00 PM
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That doesn't like like a safely made ramp..... either side... puts you out toward the street on both sides.
Looks like she went wide to avoid head-on with other bikers. Very sad.
I used to ride around OC in the 70s before moving to Pasadena. Roads were better before the Irvine Ranch incorporated into a city, a lot of people moved in and they started building 6 lane "miniature freeways" out of all the roads. Drivers now going 60+ miles an hour between stoplights and you ride along with that? not me.
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I really don't like riding paths that cross intersections. This one is really bad, (1), the southbound cyclists are riding on the wrong side of the road for traffic, and (2) the ramps are narrow and force the riders to head toward the traffic lanes (this is pretty common with these types of paths around here). I rode this path just once, since then I ride in the street there.
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wow that's awful
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Old 06-02-15, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
Its explained here
Update: 66-year old woman killed riding her bike in Laguna Hills |

see the pic with the drawn in graphics.
Michiko was riding against traffic on the bike path, street side, and as she entered kensington street, riders from the opposing direction gave her no room, and her reaction was to move right, leading to the bike/car collision.

What needs to happen when a bike trail goes out into a crosswalk is all riders need to prepare to dismount or slow down and freeup a foot. It makes no sense for riders in both directions to expect to continue at full speed going into a crosswalk.
Thanks for the link, and agree with what you say. Also it appears from the picture that cyclists would have to ride over a raised curb to get off the bike trail and cross the intersection? I would definitely dismount and walk that part. The only time when I ride onto a significant curb is when I failed to see it (happened 2-3 times, ouch).

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Old 06-03-15, 06:31 AM
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Here's the link to the picture of her bike:

https://www.jacobyandmeyers.com/wp-c...accident-2.jpg
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Here's the link to the picture of her bike:

https://www.jacobyandmeyers.com/wp-c...accident-2.jpg
I'm not sure that's her bike. It seems to me the picture is just a logo icon for "Fatal Bicycle Accident" on that website. As you can see here is another image displayed with report of that same accident.
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Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
Its explained here
Update: 66-year old woman killed riding her bike in Laguna Hills |

see the pic with the drawn in graphics.
Michiko was riding against traffic on the bike path, street side, and as she entered kensington street, riders from the opposing direction gave her no room, and her reaction was to move right, leading to the bike/car collision.

What needs to happen when a bike trail goes out into a crosswalk is all riders need to prepare to dismount or slow down and freeup a foot. It makes no sense for riders in both directions to expect to continue at full speed going into a crosswalk.
From the report it appears the accident was caused by the cyclists....both parties. I am wondering in the opposite direction riders even stopped to lend assistance?
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Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
Its explained here
Update: 66-year old woman killed riding her bike in Laguna Hills |
What needs to happen when a bike trail goes out into a crosswalk is all riders need to prepare to dismount or slow down and freeup a foot. It makes no sense for riders in both directions to expect to continue at full speed going into a crosswalk.
NO, what needs to happen is to properly design bike paths, especially at crossings.

https://bikinginla.com/wp-content/upl...ision-Site.jpg
This bike path crossing is criminal in it's design.
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From the report it appears the accident was caused by the cyclists....both parties. I am wondering in the opposite direction riders even stopped to lend assistance?
This death was caused by ignorant traffic engineers or Bureaucrats that overrode a proper design.
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A type 7 curb drop connection should have been built, but a type 1 was built instead. It makes no sense at all to have a type 1, you can't even cross the street in that area. There's no sidewalk on the other side, and there are no crossing signs.


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