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Old 12-04-15, 03:25 PM
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SGRT and/or Rio Hondo Safety

I normally ride these paths on the weekend when there are lots of people on the paths between Azusa and the beach. In the past (8-9 years ago?), I was told to avoid these trails during the weekday as they were unsafe with fewer riders. I'm contemplating a change that may give me time to ride more during the weekdays, and I'm wondering if it is safe to ride these trails early morning or evening rush hour times?

Thanks for any thoughts!
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Old 12-04-15, 05:27 PM
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I think the biggest hazard is a high speed collision with one of the trolls that can unpredictably stagger out under one of the bridges and stand clueless in the middle of the path. That seems to occur most often when it's warming up and late enough that they are stiring from their stupor.

Almost had that happen at SGRT and Valley Blvd last Saturday. That's the only place I've ever seen one acting even remotely aggressive also a while back.
At dawn they never seem to be about.




Don't know what it's like at dusk except above Santa Fe dam. On that section I have passed a few regulars walking or riding back to their camp, even say howdy to them, but that's about it.



Rio Hondo has little traffic even on weekends compared to SGRT but almost no permanent residents.
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Thanks much. I'll see how things change, and maybe I'll try riding Rio Hondo while the kids are on winter break and I'm home.
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In today's LA Times there an article written by christopher hawthorne. Entertainment: Arts & Culture: Architecture

Its about the Homeless Camps along the Freeways. But it also mentions the rivers:

In the broadest sense, the freeway encampments — like the tent cities along the Los Angeles River and other storm channels that authorities are racing to clear before winter rains arrive — suggest a significant shift in the role played by the region's large-scale public-works projects.

It is no longer possible for that infrastructure to stand apart from the rest of Los Angeles, either literally or symbolically. The city is increasingly pushing up against it, asking it to take on a broader set of responsibilities than it was designed to provide.
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Two smelly people (homeless?) were making out in the middle of the RHRT yesterday
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Intuition will say early morning you are probably better off........

The oddly I've seen my share of crazy stuff when going for jogs in the early morning, but nothing too dangerous.
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I think as long as you're aware of your surroundings you'll be ok. Personally I would only be riding the SGRT on a weekend and unless with a group of people I do not like to go further North than the 5 Fwy.
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I've generally found the Norwalk to Long Beach end of things just fine. Haven't ever ventured north of Norwalk, though.
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The commuter rider probably sees more of this than the recreational rider. Day in an day out, the homeless are there.

Even in Newport Beach on Pacific Coast Highway at a bus stop, I was on the bike and stopped near a bus stop close to Hoag Hospital. She asked me for money for bus fare.
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I think basic common sense applies on any river trail. Be cautious when approaching any underpass, not only for vagabonds, but for oncoming cyclists in the other lane. I think the only other caveat is being mindful of where you stop (assuming you even do). I would imagine most trouble occurs when you're stationary.
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Originally Posted by Eyenigma
I think basic common sense applies on any river trail. Be cautious when approaching any underpass, not only for vagabonds, but for oncoming cyclists in the other lane. I think the only other caveat is being mindful of where you stop (assuming you even do). I would imagine most trouble occurs when you're stationary.
A rider is stationary when he is forced to stop.
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat
A rider is stationary when he is forced to stop.
True. And I don't want to seem naive or dismissive. I can imagine some have been accosted by groups of thugs. But short of a barricade or human wall, I have a personal rule of always keep moving on any river trail. *Regardless of the day. I see others even, opting to rest of change flats on the sides of the road. To me, that's just asking for trouble.
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Originally Posted by Eyenigma
True. And I don't want to seem naive or dismissive. I can imagine some have been accosted by groups of thugs. But short of a barricade or human wall, I have a personal rule of always keep moving on any river trail. *Regardless of the day. I see others even, opting to rest of change flats on the sides of the road. To me, that's just asking for trouble.
The groups of thugs is most likely only an imaginary and low probability event. I ride SGRT frequently and there are a couple of underpasses I intentionally carry some speed through because of the local residents and topography but the only for sure gang activity I've seen was LACOSD busting some juvenile graffiti "artistes". The only areas I've seen any potential gang activity is the section between Whittier Narrows dam and Valley Boulevard, and under the 605 under-crossing which seems to be a hangout. Even they seem to mind themselves, but they do have a habit of leaving a beach cruiser wherever they dismounted even if it's in the middle of the lane. Not intentional, just evidence of idiocy.

A bigger hazard and evidence of idiocy though, is even though there are only four or five blind corners in the full almost 40 miles of trail, those are always the spots where a club will stop to regroup or a family will stop for a fussing small child. That, and the clubs that go balls out past the parks at the Long Beach end where the path is always crowded with N00Bs, small children and elderly pedestrians on weekends.
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I have been "accosted" on SART twice. Once by a shopping cart and once a totally blind punch from a bike going the other way. Both times I was alone with nobody around. This was over a span of thirty years though. I now always have a rider in sight going thru the "Bad" areas. This is not hard and seems to keep the trolls at bay. If you find yourself completely and utterly alone out there, thats when you are prey. Just wait a moment in a safe spot and somebody usually comes along in short order. Don't think because you are a big muscular guy and tough as nails that they won't come after you. They will because drugs make you do funny things...
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