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Old 03-30-16, 03:00 PM
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Angeles Forest/39/East Fork/GMR GRR

I'll be doing some riding in the area in mid-May. For one route, I plan to start at Encanto Park, take 39 up to Crystal Lake, then back to East Fork, then take that to GMR and down to Sierra Madre/Foothill and back to Encanto Park.

A couple of questions for locals or anyone who's been out that way recently:

- What shape are the roads in? Any major issues after winter, El Nino, etc.?
- Is the Camp Williams Café open during the week? I seem to recall it was only open on weekends - but not sure. I'm going to be riding between Monday and Friday.
- If Camp Williams Café is not open on weekdays, any other suggestions on water supplies? I plan to fill up at Crystal Lake Café but anticipate maybe needing more, especially if it's hot.

Thanks for the input!
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There was a major washout after last year's burn that closed the road to auto traffic above the gates to Crystal lake. (passible by bike) The dude that owns the Crystal Lake café was stuck with a stock of several thousand dollars worth of snow toys and no winter revenue that he depends on, so if he's open, spend your money there, he needs it.

There's a spring a few miles down from Crystal lake that will be running if he's closed up and the water is turned off.
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i wouldn't count on anything being open or any drinkable water once you head uphill/north from the azuza area via ca hwy 39 or glendora mountain road.


there is "cool down" water available from the north fork of the san gabriel river along hwy 39 about 1.5 miles past the hwy 39/east fork (bridge) rd junction.


also, more "cool down" water from the previously mentioned spring along hwy 39 approx 4 miles farther up/north (5-5.5 miles uphill/north of 39/east fork jct).


once onto east fork road after descending hwy 39, there are a few places to wet your bandana/jersey along the east fork of the san gabriel river before the ascent of
glendora mountain road.

gmr/grr is a loong ascent/descent. there are no services between azuza and mt. baldy village.

it could be hot as blazes or cold as bleep but given the lack of places in the area to resupply once entering the mountains proper, your best bet is to crazy hydrate
starting 3 days beforehand and carry 2 water bottles (+a power bar or two) the day of the ride. this along with a solid breakfast beforehand should keep you going as long
as you want without having to exit the area prematurely. cell phone coverage is spotty in the area so anyone attempting anything more ambitious than a
"i can always turn around and bail out/descend" ride needs to be prepared-equipment, clothing, food, water/bevvie-wise. it sounds like you've been out there before so
a lack of places to resupply and a need for self-reliance shouldn't be totally unexpected-especially on weekdays.

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Thanks for the feedback. I've ridden up there several times at the same time of year and am familiar with the challenges, weather and other-wise. I've done it in beautiful low 70s as well as upper 90s - which is pretty tough. I'll probably lug a camel bak with me, just to be on the safe side. I'm definitely planning to spend some money at Crystal Lake Cafe. He makes a really good chili.

I'm also going to be in the area for Stage 2 of the ATOC. If the SFVBC does a remote group ride, I'll most likely try to connect with that. I think they did something similar last year.

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You can get water at Camp Williams store if it is closed. There is a faucet at the base of the tree near the door.
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will be up there for stage 2 of atoc as well
but haven't picked exactly where yet.
decisions decisions.
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