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Old 05-03-16, 01:13 PM
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Breathless Agony FAQ #1

1. Will this ride be held if it rains or snows?
Yes, the Breathless Agony Ride will be held whether it rains or shines. There are NO REFUNDS. It might even be snowing between Angelus Oaks and Onyx Summit -- the ride will be continue anyway (but we would not recommend you continuing unless you are extremely well prepared).

Saturday: PM Showers, 50% chance of rain


Anyone else going for it? I'm riding my beater bike, bringing extra clothes, and am still going to shoot for sub-6 to the summit. Only way they'll get me to turn around is by carrying my admission over to next year.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
1. Will this ride be held if it rains or snows?
Yes, the Breathless Agony Ride will be held whether it rains or shines. There are NO REFUNDS. It might even be snowing between Angelus Oaks and Onyx Summit -- the ride will be continue anyway (but we would not recommend you continuing unless you are extremely well prepared).

Saturday: PM Showers, 50% chance of rain


Anyone else going for it? I'm riding my beater bike, bringing extra clothes, and am still going to shoot for sub-6 to the summit. Only way they'll get me to turn around is by carrying my admission over to next year.
I'll be there.

Are there any ladies up for the challenge and in need of a riding partner? I'll be ecstatic if I just finish it, preferably within the time limit . . . so I'll be shooting for sub-9 hours.
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I'm in - just bought some extra warm gloves and some better arm warmers just for the occasion. I seriously doubt I'll be anywhere near sub-6 so calamarichris - make sure you holler as you go screaming by. I suspect keeping warm on the way up will be easy... it's the descent that will pose problems.

Just out of curiosity - if you do a 6 hour run, what time does that put you at the Ranger station?

Weather underground has a slightly more positive outlook - high of 57 at Angelus oaks and only about a 24% chance of rain at 3pm. 0.02 inches forecast, you get wetter than that when a car drives by with wind shield wipers spraying.
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second hardest ride I have ever done. Good luck to all maybe next year for me
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Weather underground has a slightly more positive outlook - high of 57 at Angelus oaks and only about a 24% chance of rain at 3pm. 0.02 inches forecast, you get wetter than that when a car drives by with wind shield wipers spraying.
Oh, you optimistic rube. "Although the actual atmospheric lapse rate varies, under normal atmospheric conditions the average atmospheric lapse rate results in a temperature decrease of 6.4C/km (3.5F or 1.95C/1,000 ft) of altitude above ground level."

Angelus Oaks is at 5,800, and the summit is right below 8,500, so quick math gives me -9.5. For Angelus Oaks, respective highs are 53 (Weather Underground,) 46 (Weather Channel,) and 48 (Accuweather.) No matter which one you choose to take that 9.5 off of, it's gonna be fun on a bun.

If you get a little bit wet before you begin your descent, hoo boy. Nope. No thanks.
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I'm going. All I can tell you I will NOT make it to the top in under 6 hours. I'll be thrilled with 7.5 and happy if I finish at all.

Weather - not looking good, that's for sure. It's just hard to really believe them after so many "it's really going to rain this time - oops never mind" forecasts this whole season. I just bought some full gloves and an under-helmet beanie. I will layer up and hope for the best. The good thing about the ascent to Onyx is if it gets really bad, just turn around. I'm a bit concerned about the conditions we'll find on Jack Rabbit Trail since it is supposed to rain there on Friday. Although I just checked and they've dropped the forecast in Beaumont from 0.37 to 0.15 inches now. @pterodactyl, what time are you planning to roll?
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Glad to hear you'll be there Jim & Trojey-wojey.
I'm with you on the forecasts Jim, they've made so many bum-calls this year, I figure we need to do our patriotic duty as Californians and get out there and help resolve this drought.
Worked well enough when I took my motorcycle up to the Sierras the year before last; flash floods, cars washing off the road, and even this fire station's dayroom getting flooded with 4+ inches of water when the firemen finally came back from rescuing the flooded-out motorists. In some places the water was up to my gas tank.


We're shooting for a 5:45/6ish departure, but we'll see how things go Saturday morning. We're driving up Friday, so I might hide some warm weather gear in a bag up around the summit for the descent.
It's either going to be perfectly cloudy & cool, or it'll be epic and we'll get some much-needed rain & snow. Either way, it's going to be an awesome day. Haven't ridden in the snow since 2013 on Pikes Peak (though that wasn't for very long.)

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Originally Posted by jimincalif View Post
I'm going. (...) @pterodactyl, what time are you planning to roll?
We are planning to embark at 5:45-6am. Looking at last year's stats, nearly half of the women finishers needed about 8 hours or more to get to the final rest stop and the cutoff is at 3:30pm. I figure if I leave by 6am, I will have 9 hours to finish it within the time limit and have 30 minutes to spare, just in case.

The weather forecasts have changed quite a bit in the last 24 hours and hopefully they will improve but it looks like the high of the day will be in the mid-60's and that's mid-day in Redlands at the start/finish. I tend to get cold so I'm bringing fleece-lined knickers, arm warmers, full gingered gloves, rain jacket, waterproof overshoes, helmet cover, and saddle cover. All that gear will add weight to my already heavy vintage steel bike but I'd much rather be a touch warm and late than freezing cold and on-time.
@jimincalif when will you be rolling?
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Sounds good guys, I was looking to roll no later than 0600 so hopefully we can meet up. Maybe get as far as I-10 before @calamarichis drops us!

I am staying at the Dynasty Suites in Redlands Fri night 'cause every time I try to drive to Sylvan Park on a Saturday morning the 215 is closed at the 60. Don't want to deal with that before a ride like this.

And I don't even own any fleece-lined anything! My new gloves are rated to 40. Big Bear City is supposed to be 41 by 1100, Onyx will be cooler at 1400 feet higher, but it won't take long to get back down to 7000 feet. I've ridden a few times locally in the upper 30s around here, albeit not coasting at 35 mph for miles. I will have a long-sleeved technical shirt under my jersey, I have a light jacket with removable sleeves, I have lightweight arm warmers I can add under the long sleeves. Long (but not full length, little calf exposed) tights. I will probably wear wool socks too. I'm also bringing along a big mailing envelope that I can unfold and put under the shirts for the first descent.
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Long (but not full length, little calf exposed) tights.
Peg-Bundy-Pants! I'll be sporting the capri pants as well. Going to take it easy and maybe stick with Pterodactyl until Oak Glen or so. It's a mistake to go hard any earlier than then.

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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
Peg-Bundy-Pants! I'll be sporting the capri pants as well. Going to take it easy and maybe stick with Pterodactyl until Oak Glen or so. It's a mistake to go hard any earlier than then.
Yep, Peg Bundy! Yeah, definitely not going out hard. First time, my goal is to finish. I'll worry about elapsed time if and when I do it again!
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I'm going to reserve panicking about the weather until the day before, because its changing by the hour. I'm sure we can expect 30s up at Onyx, and if it's wet... (brr) the descent will be hairy.

I think I want to track down some shoe covers - anybody have any suggestions that don't look like scuba boots?
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I'm going to reserve panicking about the weather until the day before, because its changing by the hour. I'm sure we can expect 30s up at Onyx, and if it's wet... (brr) the descent will be hairy. I think I want to track down some shoe covers - anybody have any suggestions that don't look like scuba boots?
HeftyHeftyHEFTY! Not only do they make a good sock or overshoe, they also make a dashing rain vest.

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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
I'm going to reserve panicking about the weather until the day before, because its changing by the hour. I'm sure we can expect 30s up at Onyx, and if it's wet... (brr) the descent will be hairy.

I think I want to track down some shoe covers - anybody have any suggestions that don't look like scuba boots?
I found some cool shoe coverings from Sealskinz (Halo Neoprene Overshoe) that look more like Tron boots than scuba boots. They even come with blinky lights at the heels - but they are hard to find on short notice. I had to pay a premium for overnight shipping from bikewagon to get them here tomorrow.


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FYI - According to their facebook page, the Breathless Agony organizers are considering changing the course due to the forecast. They will be making the decision today.

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Breathless Agony We are looking at options and will make a decision later today. The ride is on and you'll want to bring 3-4 layers and your winter gear.



Breathless Agony We are looking at options that don't include Onyx Summit. Stay tuned for more info."
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Dafuq! I didn't pay $125 to ride around Beaumont, that's for sure. Grr.
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Paying to ride anywhere in Blowmont is, as they say, "getting taken."
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Paying to ride anywhere in Blowmont is, as they say, "getting taken."
That makes two snarky, unhelpful comments. You've done more than your share, take the rest of the week off.

I'm still going to ride Onyx, kcuf 'em. Been training and mentally preparing for this; ain't going to let some flurries change my plans.
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I'm still going to ride Onyx, kcuf 'em. Been training and mentally preparing for this; ain't going to let some flurries change my plans.
I'm still reserving judgment until Friday. Odds are good this "storm" will be pretty lame even if we are in the middle of it.

It's also probable the storm won't happen. Exhibit A, new arm warmers and gloves, purchased yesterday by me.
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So you've never ridden in Beaumont, then? It's windy 100% of the time, the "city" hasn't seen a street sweeper since the 20th century, and there's always at least one hick willing to roll coal on you while you're busy trying to count how many turkeys or pigs some house has in the front yard.

it's not snarky, it's called "experience." I've ridden through Beaumont for free many times. Paying for it indicates a gluttony for punishment.
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It's also probable the storm won't happen. Exhibit A, new arm warmers and gloves, purchased yesterday by me.
Appreciate your taking one for the team. If the weather ends up mild and the roads dry, your first two post-ride retox beers on are me.
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New beanie and gloves purchased by me. And both my wife and I did not wash our cars.
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Okay, okay, Jim gets a free beer too if we end up with dry roads, but you have to recommend a great brewery or pub near the finish line.

Is Hangar 24 close enough? Or are there better places with a restaurant attached?
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I called the Kahler Cycling Academy organizers to inquire about a possible admission rollover until next year and their anticipated route deviations; I was told that there will be no refunds or rollovers and that they will have two route options - the original Onyx Summit route and a different TBD option for those without adequate gear but who still wish to avoid hypothermia.

So it looks like the Onyx Summit ascent is still on for the bravest among us.
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So presumably someplace along the route we'll have to make a choice as to whether or not we attempt the summit or switch to plan B.

I will turn off my automatic sprinklers tonight in anticipation of rain. This pretty much guarantees any approaching cold front will disintegrate before it gets here.
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