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Old 02-11-17, 08:50 AM
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Mariner's Mile 'squeeze' (PCH/Newport Beach)

Looks like the City of Newport Beach may eliminate street parking along the "Mariner's Mile" section of PCH to squeeze in a third traffic lane. That'll probably result in less room for bicyclists going through that (already) conjested area, especially in summer, and more conflicts between cars and bicycles 'taking-the-lane' for that stretch between Newport Blvd and the Newport Bay bridge.

Proposal for Mariners' Mile: 3 lanes in each direction and no street parking - Daily Pilot
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Old 02-11-17, 10:16 AM
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I don't know what it will look like... It did mentioned that they're going to add bike lane there. I need to see the plan before I make any judgement.
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Old 02-11-17, 01:36 PM
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Key phrase FTA: "with no specific time frame". Public works in CA take years to get proposed, litigated, reviewed, funded, relitigated and approved before they are shovel ready, so I'm not holding my breath.

In some of that stretch the only safe way to ride is to take the lane, this usually results in an irate BMW or Mercedes SUV driver blasting their horn and making a close pass to prove their superiority.
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Old 02-11-17, 05:04 PM
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If coming from the South going North, I avoid the Mariner's Mile by turning right on Dover and a left on Cliff Drive. It will curve into Riverside Avenue. But I don't go to PCH. I turn right on Santa Ana Avenue (to avoid PCH). I follow that and it goes behind the BMW dealership. I keep going till I get to a dead end where I turn left into a parking lot. I follow that till it eventually meets PCH.

Then I'm real close to what was once "The Arches" restaurant. That's where John Wayne used to hang out in addition to other places. Any you old timers remember The Arches?
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Old 02-11-17, 06:59 PM
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Yup, I remember. Went there a couple times. Dark inside.
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Old 02-11-17, 09:08 PM
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Also remember The Arches. It was right where old Newport Road intersects PCH. I ate there once, didn't think it was as great as folks had mentioned. The building is now a generic mini-mart.
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Old 02-13-17, 11:59 AM
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That's already one of the crappier sections on the California Coast to ride. Or drive. Gets you in a nice sour mood, so you're ready for the idiocy of Laguna Beach.

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Maybe timing really is everything since I've ridden through there going both North and South and I've never seen the traffic level shown in the photo.

Nor have I ever been honked at by BMW or Mercedes SUV driver (though I don't doubt that it happens).

Guess I've just been lucky but it's for sure a "no problem" area for me.

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Old 02-13-17, 05:46 PM
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Must be nice to be retired and do all you're riding while the go-getters are sitting in cubicles to pay for their Mercedes & BMWs.
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Old 02-13-17, 05:51 PM
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When I live down there in Tustin I always took Balboa down to the ferry, cross to Balboa Island and then picked up Bayside to CDM, even though it took longer..... it was a nice breakup. Always hated that stretch of PCH. And that was years ago.... I imagine now it's twice as bad.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
:d must be nice to be retired and do all you're riding while the go-getters are sitting in cubicles to pay for their mercedes & bmws.
rofl!
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I'll admit I don't like going through there too much anymore. Actually its not too bad going through early on a weekend morning (except mid-summer) . . . OR mid-day when the cars are packed together as shown in the picture above. Think about it - with all those cars at a standstill its easy to get through that bottleneck. I used to go through there on my way to Newport Coast Drive where I'd do repeat hill climbs from PCH to the light just before the crest (before they put in all the new home developments, and extra stop lights, along it). That was a great workout!
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Old 02-13-17, 09:35 PM
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Not a fan of filtering through backed up cars. There is alway some guy opening his door to spit or dump out old coffee.
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Here's another reason why a ride away from the Mariner's Mile to Riverside Avenue for a nice break:

C'est Si Bon Bakery - Newport Beach
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