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Old 07-11-18, 09:23 AM
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New Pendleton Access Rules?

Have heard rumors that Pendleton has changed the access rules again and we now have to apply for monthly passes.
However, their website has no info. Anyone know what's up?
Am making a trip to the provost marshall today and will report my findings.
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Old 07-11-18, 09:56 AM
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Yes it's been confirmed by @tunavic. Effective July 8, have to personally visit the Visitors Center at the south (Oceanside) entrance to get a pass, pass is good for only 30 days, must carry pass with you to enter/ride. Visitor Center only open weekday business hours. So no impromptu weekend rides thru the base, lots more driving trips on I-5 for those who want to ride the base on a weekend, more cyclists on the freeway, and likely fewer overall bike riders between OC and SD. Our club has a remote ride along the coast next month, thru the base was one option for the metric route. I'm eliminating that option.
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Old 07-11-18, 11:47 AM
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Works great for you north county types, it's a POS change for us LA/OC types.

Freeway is fine (for me... southbound at least) on weekends, it's a bit terrifying on weekdays when the traffic is going 80+

I can't say I'd entirely mind if they build a bike path that paralleled the 5 - it would solve everybody's issues.
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Just saw a FB comment that the new policy is on hold because the General hasn't signed off. And that they are getting lots of calls. So who knows where we'll end up.

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it's a bit terrifying on weekdays when the traffic is going 80+

I can't say I'd entirely mind if they build a bike path that paralleled the 5 - it would solve everybody's issues.
80+ - yeah, emphasis on the "+". Bike path - no money, they have to build Moonbeam's train to nowhere first.
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Old 07-11-18, 02:39 PM
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If the state builds a bike path you're looking at 1 million + per mile, environmental studies etc. If a couple marines grab some shovels, we could get it done for about 10 cases of beer.
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Completely bureaucratic PITA. Got my month-long pass and it took 10 minutes because some woman jumped ahead in line, then her whole family came in, they weren't US citizens and had a bunch of idiotic questions and jokes, and the other half of their non-citizen family was still out in the minivan, so they had to invite them in too for more idiotic questions and jokes.
Had to fill out their form, (you can't do it on their website unless you have an on-post sponsor), and the bureaucrats in the office reminded me how lucky I am to no longer be in the military.
I mentioned that we cyclists were unable to pre-enroll on their website without an online sponsor, and she went into human-voicemail mode, stating the policy that the post is for service members, vendors, dependents, and family members of the service members, and basically said "Eff off, cyclist" without using those words.
On my way out the door, the nice young human voicemail said, "Excuse me sir. You need to exit out the other door."
"No problem. May I please grab my bike and take it through with me instead of walking all the way around the building to get it?"
"Fine, just go out that way."
Been jumping through their hoops every time they change their policy for the last 24 years. Will hopefully get updated again to include us, or I'll just continue sweating up their waiting room chairs. (It was warm & muggy today and I'd ridden 30 miles at that point, so unfortunately I very unintentionally saturated 3 of their padded fabric chairs with my copious sweat. Very sorry about that.)

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Old 07-11-18, 04:07 PM
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You don't sound terribly sorry...

The civilians "in" the military were the stiffest necked, most intractable humans I have ever met.
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How about wretchedly sorry? 'zat work for you?

Even when I became one, I always thought it was funny to call the senior enlisted leaders NCO's, non-commissioned officers, and noncomms. Must make 'em angry to work hard, keep their boots shined and their bunk made real neat for years & years, only to qualify for the lofty category of wannabe-officer, or non-officer. Maybe that's why they're all so surly and unpleasant?

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I usta' shoot competitive long range with a private rifle club on the base. As of last September our "license" expired. The club and the base have been going back and forth for almost a year now. I'm not holding my breath on that one. Apparently the new base command's left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing.
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It IS a military base, not a velodrome. This just seems to be turning into a political discussion. You can't seriously be arguing about how the commander 'runs his base'?

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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
The civilians "in" the military were the stiffest necked, most intractable humans I have ever met.
Most of the DoD civilians I came into contact were there to serve us snuffies and were very kind, supportive, and accommodating, but I'm starting to see what you mean.
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It IS a military base, not a velodrome. This just seems to be turning into a political discussion. You can't seriously be arguing about how the commander 'runs his base'?

Incredible.
Hardly - you're making **** up.

It's not a racetrack either and yet we have a superhighway running right through the base.
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@calamarichris I just spoke to the visitor center and was told the final word is that the pass is now good for ONE YEAR, not 30 days as was previously reported.

Is there an expiration date on the pass you received?
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@calamarichris I just spoke to the visitor center and was told the final word is that the pass is now good for ONE YEAR, not 30 days as was previously reported.

Is there an expiration date on the pass you received?
Yep. Expires 8/11/18. The person you spoke with might be answering under the assumption that the previous policy is still in effect.
It's not uncommon for the MPs to have no idea what's going on with the new policy every time the Camp changes Generals. Even in the Age of Information, the communication ain't great. Either that, or they're hoping to attrite us out of the Camp and out onto the Interstate with the 90+mph texting drivers.
I was delighted when they implemented the CDL registration system, because I've seen a lot fewer cyclists misbehaving on post. Over the years, I've reminded a few cyclists that it's not a public road, that they cannot take-a-lane on Pendleton, etc. but I still see empty Gu's littering the side of the road. If we're that much of a PITA, maybe we deserve to ride on the 5?
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@calamarichris, this was issued today, after they changed the rule to one year rather than 30 days.
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@calamarichris, this was issued today, after they changed the rule to one year rather than 30 days.
Well that's certainly a step in the right direction. Lucky you didn't apply for it yesterday. 8D

Thanks for reporting the good news. I guess you OC riders can always take your bikes on the train to Oside, hit Bagby, and ride back home; make a day of it.

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Well that's certainly a step in the right direction. Lucky you didn't apply for it yesterday. 8D
Maybe they'll just update your ID on their database so when they scan it, the expiration date will also be one year. I wouldn't count on it however
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The way this year's been going, I'm not even going to get my hopes up. Will just go back in and inadvertently saturate a few more waiting room chairs when the time comes.
Thanks for the good news and congrats on the good luck.
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Can always swing over to the visitor center after time trialing down the 5. A year is certainly palatable.
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I got an email from someone dated 7/12 which stated that they went in on Thursday 7/12 to get a pass at Pendleton. There is a separate clerk for dealing with cyclists who told them the online registration done previously would be valid until 10/1/2018 (meaning if you registered, theoretically you can get in with just your drivers license), but the supervisor of the gate guards had contrary information and required them to go to the visitor's center to get the one year pass. They were issued the one-year pass as pictured upthread. Took them 15 minutes but there was only one other rider ahead of them. They obtain your fingerprint, drivers license, SSN, and photo when they issue this new ID.
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Well that's certainly a step in the right direction. Lucky you didn't apply for it yesterday. 8D

Thanks for reporting the good news. I guess you OC riders can always take your bikes on the train to Oside, hit Bagby, and ride back home; make a day of it.
Mmmmmmmm...Bagby=awesome!
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Bagby is... good. Not awesome.

My personal current favorite is Breakwater, right on PCH adjacent to the train station. Although they've been a little grumpy about bikes on the patio the last few times I went. :|
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^better than good but not awesome. a solid b+. with roughly 150 breweries in sd county, it's a full-time job to keep track of even half of them
and stay semi-current on those releases, new stuff, seasonal offerings, etc. the rising tide has lifted most boats. still like societe, alpine, modern times, eppig, fall and alesmith
the most for true sd co. breweries. fave brewery is mikkeller but they're not a native sd co. brewery (but opening a tasting room soon in little italy near dtown sd
= super dangerous). bagby does have a great selection of beer styles tho (their "sweet ride" czech pilsner is excellent and the "alt in the family" altbier ain't far behind)
and plenty of bike space.

if you make it down the coast to encinitas, a nice stop in encinitas is at the biergarten on the 101/coast highway/pch on the east side of the street about a .25 mile south of the la paloma theater.
a solid selection of sd county beers and a great place to post up to watch the best of the traffic whether it's on wheels or on foot.

and back on topic...thanks to all applicable for the base updates.
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Bagby is... good. Not awesome.

My personal current favorite is Breakwater, right on PCH adjacent to the train station. Although they've been a little grumpy about bikes on the patio the last few times I went. :|
Found the IPA guy. Breakwater can't hold a candle to Bagby. Been there 3 times; a weird sour-milk smell the first time, and their pils/blond had been in the keg too long and had that cardboardy-glue aftertaste. Now you say they're grumpy about bikes? Strike three.
Bagby is not cheap, but I've never had a stale one after dozens of growler fills. Even their IPAs are excellent. And the only thing I've heard from them about my bike is compliments.

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