Cpn_Dunsel

You are dangerously ignorant on this subject.

2seven0

"though I am willing to follow the guidelines" and other like statements are simply euphemisms for one's being a billboard for institutionalized fear and subjugation- good intentions or not.
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momoman

I rode with a buddy last Saturday and rode to Encanto Park and Sierra Madre before heading home. At Encanto, a group of 40 riders belonging to a regular riding group that starts in Pico Rivera stopped for a break. At Sierra Madre we saw the large group of "racers" who ride every Saturday morning and end up at the downtown area of Sierra Madre. That group has not diminished in numbers. I see them every Saturday morning when I head off to ride with a buddy or two. I won't name the groups. Last week we rode to Griffith Park/Burbank and I saw several groups of 5-10 out there but nothing like the groups of 40+ I see in my area, the West SGV area.

I usually ride with a group of 8-15+ but since March we have broken up to small groups of 2-4 or so, but as we're riding we do see groups of 10-40+ every Saturday so far.

cruiserhead

Mayor isn't restricting bicycling, or outdoor exercise.

Garcetti made a point that all outdoor activites — like walking, hiking, running, biking — are still allowed and encouraged. "I encourage you to get out there, keep your space, wear a mask, but go for a walk, go for a bike ride, make sure you do those things that can help you get through this tough time. Don't just stay indoors," he added.

https://laist.com/latest/post/202012...-at-home-order

shopco43

Garcetti does not have the Constitutional authority to create a law so he issues a mandate or guideline or whatever. One is still free to do as he pleases as far as wearing a mask or gathering, because there is no law. That person may very well be wrong. He may very well be endangering others. While unfortunate, it is still his right, just as it is your right to avoid said person. As an example, I have found it necessary to greatly increase my commuting milage in order to avoid heavily trafficked roads. Those roads do have bicycle lanes, but they also have dangerous drivers who, by virtue of carelessness or a bias against bicyclists pose a danger to me. Such is life.



The biggest threat is not the pandemic, it is the taking away of freedoms. To whatever degree, the pandemic will run its course. But the loss of freedoms will remain. It is apparent to many that this great illness has been used by some (of those in power) to overstep their authority, and it is the willing abandonment of one’s freedoms, protected by our Constitution, that is profoundly disturbing. This is not to say that adherence to the health professional’s guidelines is wrong headed, quite the contrary. When done out of consideration of others there is no fault to be found. When wearing a mask is done simply to satisfy the demands of authority, that is the point at which one crosses a line, a very dangerous line.



Those of us born just after the end of the war understand this danger, perhaps better than those to whom WWII is nothing more than a subject from your history class. There was a time not so long ago that what you wore, or did not wear, would get you arrested.



“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C.S. Lewis



This poor fellow does not understand the mind of a tyrant. A tyrant cannot be appeased. This is truly disheartening.

UCantTouchThis

Sounds nice but they did close down the beaches at one time. I sure don't want them to do it again as there are many cyclists that count on the facilities there. Plenty of unhappy people for no reason. I say don't give anyone any reason to mess with our cycling enjoyment.

NeedARealBike

They always leave that little loophole because they can't actually enforce it and are just trying to generate good PR as politicians always do. Everything is essential and everyone is still out.

skidder

This time in history is one of the very few when you can walk into a bank, walk up to a teller window, and nobody cares that you have your face covered with a mask and dark glasses. I did that a few weeks ago without even thinking about wearing a mask in a bank (glasses are the photochromatic ones that had not yet turned clear after walking indoors.

Have some fun with it while you can.

NeedARealBike

Yes having worked security before I found that funny. I go into the gas station with a ski mask regularly during mid ride breaks and no one pays it any mind. Good way to keep my nose and ears from freezing in the wind.