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Old 12-19-06, 10:11 PM
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Fargo Street

Anyone have any advice about Fargo Street for someone who intends to climb it sometime next year? It's supposed to be something like a quarter mile of 30% grade, right? If I try on a MTB with, say, a 22/34 low gear, it should be somewhat akin to riding a 15% grade in a 34/27 (low gear on my roadie) for half a mile, right? Sounds painful, but doable.
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On a mountain bike? Dude, that cheapens it somewhat. Back in the day, a friend of mine did it on a 42x23!
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Jason, there is a street in Laguna Beach that is like Fargo, but you can get a running start...

I am not even willing to climb it yet!
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Any practical advice about getting up Fargo Street on a roadie is fine, too. It's not as if I actually own a mountain bike. I can climb a 15% grade seated. (Slowly, but I can do it without feeling like I'll kill myself.) I can't possibly climb Fargo Street seated, though an extreme tack might allow me to take a short seated "break".
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The equivalence doesn't hold true because at that steep, the handling of the bike becomes an issue. As an example, the front wheel goes airborne if you lean back too far.

I would recommend as low as gearing you can get to start. Even with that you may have to start tacking. The street is narrow enough where even tacking is a challenge.

However, persevere to climb it straight. Tacking increases the run quite a bit making it far less than 32%
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<picture lifted from la wheelmen site from their march Fargo climb. Lots of other pics here>

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It's advisable to have a spotter follow you up the hill on foot as you could easily lose your balance as you tack. Ask ovoleg.......when he lost momentum and tried to dismount he lost balance and slid about 25 feet down on his road cleats. That's when I first met ovoleg, btw...
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Also from that website, this guy is nuts!

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Originally Posted by jschen
Any practical advice about getting up Fargo Street on a roadie is fine, too. It's not as if I actually own a mountain bike. I can climb a 15% grade seated. (Slowly, but I can do it without feeling like I'll kill myself.) I can't possibly climb Fargo Street seated, though an extreme tack might allow me to take a short seated "break".

mt bike gearing is far easier on steep climbs, but will never get you any stronger on the road bike. Too different. I climb alot of steep stuff on a mt bike, hasnt helped my road climbing. But climbing on a roadie helps the mt bike climbing.
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That one photo with the huge rear sprocket just gave me an idea. I'm modifying one fixer bike just for this event....
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Originally Posted by BigSean
mt bike gearing is far easier on steep climbs, but will never get you any stronger on the road bike.
Yeah, but this would be a one off climb. Nowhere else do I encounter sustained 30% grades. The only other 30% grades I might see are if I take a tight line in the Mt Baldy switchbacks, But there, it lasts for only a few feet, so you just power right through it.
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Old 12-19-06, 10:43 PM
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i'm the opposite.... i can climb steeper stuff on my road bike than i can my MTB
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Originally Posted by caligurl
i'm the opposite.... i can climb steeper stuff on my road bike than i can my MTB
Even if your MTB is on asphalt?
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that i don't know.... i'm comparing roadie on the road to MTB on the dirt/sand.... (that's why i get so aggrevated at the goat trails... i KNOW i can climb steeper climbs... just can't do THAT one! lol!)
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You guys are nuts. But count me in to root you guys on!!!
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(and i also disagree the MTBing doesn't help road riding... i think... just like spinning helps BOTH kinds of cycling... MTBing helps road riding and road riding helps MTBing...)
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Originally Posted by caligurl
... MTBing helps road riding and road riding helps MTBing...)

I agree!
Mt biking help handling skills on the Road, Road help endurance on the Mt Bike!

Ride on Garth...
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Originally Posted by jschen
Yeah, but this would be a one off climb. Nowhere else do I encounter sustained 30% grades. The only other 30% grades I might see are if I take a tight line in the Mt Baldy switchbacks, But there, it lasts for only a few feet, so you just power right through it.
Keeping the front wheel on the ground at that grade would be tough. Road bike would be better. Unless you can find like an 80"s original mt bike rigid and climb standing. Roadie would be my preference. How long is it?
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It is a blast to watch and photograph. These are from two years ago:

https://vmac.smugmug.com/gallery/445104/1/17909643

I may try to be an actual participant this year.
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It is a blast to watch and photograph. These are from two years ago:

https://vmac.smugmug.com/gallery/445104/1/17909643

I may try to be an actual participant this year.

Great story about the guy who climbed it 33!!! times, plus more links at the bottom:

https://home.comcast.net/~wymanburke/FargoStreet.html
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jschen let me know when you go out to do it...I'd like to see it.

I tried it on another occassion and just simply put, it is too hard without a heavy bike and good gearing. Even with my low gearing, after I lost momentum, its hard to stay upright. It's not really in the leg muscle as it is more of a control/power issue. You have to be going at a decent clip to stay upright.

Harder than it looks...by far.

Anyways let me know I'll come watch
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I wish that I can find the post where Ovoleg said he did ride all the way to the top of Fargo. You should really get notes on the lies you tell here. They will catch up with you one day. If anyone has any free time I'm sure you can find it.
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Originally Posted by Vancemac
It is a blast to watch and photograph.
Great pics, vancemac.
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Originally Posted by Socalcycling
I wish that I can find the post where Ovoleg said he did ride all the way to the top of Fargo. You should really get notes on the lies you tell here. They will catch up with you one day. If anyone has any free time I'm sure you can find it.
Why would I care to look that up?
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Originally Posted by Socalcycling
I wish that I can find the post where Ovoleg said he did ride all the way to the top of Fargo. You should really get notes on the lies you tell here. They will catch up with you one day. If anyone has any free time I'm sure you can find it.
I never said that, but keep track of my posts more

Go search the forums and link it to me pls, I like it when you monitor me
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