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Old 03-24-07, 12:49 PM
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Reverse doping

There is someone on BF - don't remember who, who has a sig that says "I practice reverse doping". Well I gave it a try. I donated blood yesterday and at the time they said "no strenuous exercise for 24 hours." No problem. So roughly 24 hours later I headed out this AM for a ride up the coast and some hill repeats.

It turned out that I felt fine on the flats but felt like poo on hills - no energy at all. No Torrey Pines repeats today for me. I guess all those red blood cells really do serve a purpose after all.

I am planning to do a run out to Ramona tomorrow (~65mi). Hopefully my bone marrow will get busy today.

Bottom line - I don't recommend donating blood just before a hilly Century.
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Old 03-24-07, 01:19 PM
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I don't like needles... so I think I'm good... oh and I don't ride centuries yet
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i heard it take 86 days or so to rebuild you to where you were before.
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Originally Posted by clutchy
i heard it take 86 days or so to rebuild you to where you were before.
Lovely.

Oh well - it's still a good thing to do. Luckily I'm not racing.
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Old 03-24-07, 02:22 PM
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You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.
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Old 03-24-07, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.
I don't really want to know. Besides, I have the perfect sandbagger excuse for the next 85 days. I plan to milk it (or bleed it) it for all it's worth.
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Old 03-24-07, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.

Nice avatar, Grumpy.
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That would be me.

It's been afew months since i last donated, probably in November or December last year. I can't/won't do it until after July though since my schedule is pretty busy with events until then...
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If you could still ride, you're still one up on me. Last time I donated, I got out of the chair and passed out onto the floor. Couldn't drive myself home and was woozy for two days. The Red Cross people never mentioned a minimum weight limit... they really are bloodthirsty!
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Originally Posted by Happytime
If you could still ride, you're still one up on me. Last time I donated, I got out of the chair and passed out onto the floor. Couldn't drive myself home and was woozy for two days. The Red Cross people never mentioned a minimum weight limit... they really are bloodthirsty!
I am well above any possible minimum weight. No problem there.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.

and some power cranks as well! all this tech training stuff hurts my head.....i dont need some hella pricey piece of gear to tell me i need to ride more....
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Old 03-24-07, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.
Yeah, if you're going to be scientific about it, let's be really scientific!

Nice avatar, Frank.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
You should get a Power Tap to figure exactly how much difference there is.
No need as it turns out. I went out today for a loop from my house to Ramona, Escondido. RSF and Del Mar. I almost turned back at Scripps Ranch. Felt worse than yesterday - no energy on flats or hills. I persisted anyway and winched myself up Scripps Poway Parkway at 6mph. My plan to add on a Lake Wohlford/Valley Center loop was nixed along the way. While I did get somewhat better after about 30 miles I never felt good.

72 miles, 5700ft. 13.5 mph average

Meh.

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I usually don't feel like crap after donating. Actually i feel just fine. I just find i get tired really quick when i do anything more strenous than walking for about 2-4 weeks afterwards (i park on level 5 of the parking structure at work and i take the stairs, usually i'm fine but after donating i'll be gasping for breath after 2 levels...)
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I give platelets every 2 months. I don't notice any effect on my performance. I try to get the last appointment on Friday and cycle on Saturday or Sunday.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
I give platelets every 2 months. I don't notice any effect on my performance. I try to get the last appointment on Friday and cycle on Saturday or Sunday.
Platelets don't carry oxygen, so I don't imagine donating them would have much effect on endurance.
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Platelets don't carry oxygen, so I don't imagine donating them would have much effect on endurance.
ever given plasma? You can make $50 bucks.. or my friend did at least.
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ever given plasma? You can make $50 bucks.. or my friend did at least.
So if I do that 100 times I can buy one of these:




Sounds like a plan.
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Originally Posted by Indolent58
So if I do that 100 times I can buy one of these:




Sounds like a plan.
It will take you a while... I believe you can only donate once every two weeks... oh and according to my friend it kicks your a$$.. she couldn't drive home and was picked up by her mom.
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Originally Posted by clutchy
i heard it take 86 days or so to rebuild you to where you were before.
It's actually 56 days, the Red Cross won't let you donate for another 56 days. I know because I have blood type O+ ( Univeral donar) and CMV- ( it means they can give my blood to people with compromised imune systems). They call me on the 56 day every time.
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Originally Posted by maddmike
It's actually 56 days, the Red Cross won't let you donate for another 56 days. I know because I have blood type O+ ( Univeral donar) and CMV- ( it means they can give my blood to people with compromised imune systems). They call me on the 56 day every time.
Hey! You just cost me 30 days of excuses for being slow.

Thanks alot.
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I donated the two days before the Apple Pie ride last fall and it made a huge difference. I was lagging all day long. Last time I'll do that.
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