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Old 09-10-07, 05:36 PM
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LA River Bike Path - Vandalism

I sent this to the LA DOT

For the last few weeks we have noticed that the cement covers that provide access to the wiring for the lights on the LA River Bike path have been disturbed and are not completely closed.
This morning 9/8, west of the Los Feliz bridge many were open and most had wires sticking out of them.
We went over the bridge and made a right to exit onto Los Feliz, as soon as we turned, there was a deep open hole with wires sticking out. The cover was off to the side.
This is dangerous for both riders and others using the path...
We are not sure if its from maintanence work, or someone is scavenging the copper wire!!
I haven't been there at night so I don't know if the lights still work. If they don't then that is an even more dangerous situation. Open holes, and dark areas unlit remote areas, very dangerous.

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Received this today

Thank you for bringing to our attention the situation affecting the lighting system along the LA River Bike Path. In recent months, theft of the copper wires which are part of the lighting system has occurred several times at various locations. We are in the process of attacking this problem on several fronts: first, we are working with the Bureau of Street Lighting to assess the extent of the theft and associated damage; we are also in contact with LAPD in an effort to thwart the criminal activity itself. We are also working with the Bureau of Street Lighting to pursue a long term solution to better secure the lighting pull-boxes and covers.

Today, we have inspected the locations which you reported to us in your email; it appears that the thieves have struck again. We are again working with the Bureau of Street Lighting to secure the areas in question until repairs can be made. As a result of the theft and vandalism, the lights are currently out of order.
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Herb, forgive me, but when you say there is a hole with exposed wire, do you mean on the path? Should I avoid the bike path on Thursday night? Oh, and thanks for the information.
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Originally Posted by merider1
Herb, forgive me, but when you say there is a hole with exposed wire, do you mean on the path? Should I avoid the bike path on Thursday night? Oh, and thanks for the information.
They are basically cement covers that protect access to the wiring (not too well apparently!). As you proceed East towards Los Feliz with the lights on your right, they are at the extreme right side of the path. If you rode all the way to the right you could possibly hit one...the one on the exit of the bridge was right in our turning area...Mark saw it and called out to be careful, as that was a deeper one...I would think since they inspected them today, they have closed them up...
I am more concerned that there are no lights at all now...
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I noticed this last Thursday while riding along the path and immediately knew it was vandalism as no city maintenance crew will leave the covers open with exposed electical wiring unattended like that. But I had no idea they were after copper. That makes sense now.
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Originally Posted by herbm
I am more concerned that there are no lights at all now...
Thanks, Herb, and good point. We'll avoid the bike path and come back through the park then.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
I noticed this last Thursday while riding along the path and immediately knew it was vandalism as no city maintenance crew will leave the covers open with exposed electical wiring like that. But I had no idea they were after copper. That makes sense now.
I noticed them a bit disturbed a week before..but nothing like this...they must have been scoping them out...then went in and yanked it all out...
bunch of jerks...too bad they didnt get zapped!!
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Originally Posted by herbm
too bad they didnt get zapped!!
Agreed.

On the news a couple of weeks ago a pair of crooks died of electrocution when they were attempting to steal copper wiring; they cut into a live wire.
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Originally Posted by merider1
Thanks, Herb, and good point. We'll avoid the bike path and come back through the park then.
Riverside is lit enough as well to be ok....
Also I am not sure how much of the lighting..I think only a 1/4-1/2 mile or so...but dont know for sure...
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Good job, Herb, for letting the proper peeps know what's going on.
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Originally Posted by Cyclon
Agreed.

On the news a couple of weeks ago a pair of crooks died of electrocution when they were attempting to steal copper wiring; they cut into a live wire.
I would have to think the only time for these dodo;s to do this is at night when the wiring would be hot as well...
Actually some of the wire ends that were sticking up were electrical taped and a they actually looked pretty good! So it may have been someone who has electrical knowledge??
Still I cant imagine there is that much wire in there to make it worthwhile??
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Originally Posted by herbm
Still I cant imagine there is that much wire in there to make it worthwhile??
They could have easily yanked out several hundred feet of heavy gauge wiring.
I was in Home Depot a few weeks ago buying some 12 gauge wiring to wire an electric clothes dryer. I think I paid something like $30 for just 25 feet of 3-wire romex and I was thinking to myself these things sure went up in price since the last time I bought some....
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Originally Posted by roadfix
They could have easily yanked out several hundred feet of heavy gauge wiring.
I was in Home Depot a few weeks ago buying some 12 gauge wiring to wire an electric clothes dryer. I think I paid something like $30 for just 25 feet of 3-wire romex and I was thinking to myself these things sure went up in price since the last time I bought some....
Wow...I guess it is alot of $$$....
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Originally Posted by Happytime
Good job, Herb, for letting the proper peeps know what's going on.
Thanks....it made me mad to see that!!! And its messing with our nite rides!!
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Originally Posted by herbm
Wow...I guess it is alot of $$$....
I think scrap wire is about $2.25/lb.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
They could have easily yanked out several hundred feet of heavy gauge wiring.
I was in Home Depot a few weeks ago buying some 12 gauge wiring to wire an electric clothes dryer. I think I paid something like $30 for just 25 feet of 3-wire romex and I was thinking to myself these things sure went up in price since the last time I bought some....
Screw that bike maintenace class that never happened......whos in for a George taught basic home maintenance class. Wiring a clothes dryer.....crap, instead I just went out a bought a new one
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Originally Posted by Raiderdave
Wiring a clothes dryer.....crap, instead I just went out a bought a new one
By wiring an electric clothes dryer I meant running a new 220V line from the wall fuse box to the dryer.
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Originally Posted by Raiderdave
Screw that bike maintenace class that never happened......whos in for a George taught basic home maintenance class. Wiring a clothes dryer.....crap, instead I just went out a bought a new one
Well, look it, Raiderdave, I TRIED to get the class going but the rest of the unruly class messed it all up with their "orgy-hoedown-smutbooths" ideas. I was SERIOUS about the maintenance class and still want one!
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I was SERIOUS about the orgy-hoedown-smutbooths and still want one!
Uh huh.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
By wiring an electric clothes dryer I meant running a new 220V line from the wall fuse box to the dryer.
I think understand what you just said, but the ultra paranoia in me won't touch anything electrical at home.

Crazy thing is growing up my dad just paid someone to do all these things. Now I do that, and sadly my 10 year old son is simply destined for it...Maybe not though, between the inernet, the 8 billion home improvement/repair shows on tv, and me being realtively poor living in LA(the electrican charges you $100 to RING your door bell), maybe there is hope for him!
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Originally Posted by Happytime
Uh huh.
Stop that!
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Stop that!
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My SO is so much more mechanically inclined. This past weekend she replaced our thermostat while I stood there and watched
 
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My SO is so much more mechanically inclined. This past weekend she replaced our thermostat while I stood there and watched
Wow...now that's GIRL power! I'm impressed.
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Yeah, it's hot and immasculating all at once
 
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I rode this last nite to see....
90% of the lights are out....but it wasnt that bad...there are a few spots where I had to turn my light up to high, but mostly the lights from the streets or freeways keeps things lit.
There are a bunch of riders...walkers, skaters, but no problems at all.

I imagine it will take the city a while to fix this...I hope they get on it soon...
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