Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban Canyon MTB Ride (Sat. Nov. 3rd?)
10-06-07, 11:38 PM
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Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban Canyon MTB Ride (Sat. Nov. 3rd?)
So, I poked around a bit and I think it's doable for a friendly open to all MTB ride in San Clemente/Rose Canyons in San Diego.
Name of Ride: Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban Canyon MTB Ride
Date: 11/3/2007, hopefully
Start location: Nobel Athletic Area, https://maps.google.com/maps?client=s...=1&sa=N&tab=wl
Meet time: 8:30
Roll time: 9:00
Distance: Mountain Bike Bill says 16 miles
Elevation Gain: Some
Difficulty Level: No Drop . . . and I mean it.
Routeslip/Ride Description: Mountain Bike Bill has a good description here:
https://www.mountainbikebill.com/SanClementeCanyon.htm
Note that he says a beginner will find it somewhat challenging. It's true. I'm a beginner, I walk some of it. There's no shame in walking any section you don't feel comfortable trying. At least consider trying it though
New start point, new route, old canyon. We'll drop into the canyon near the 805 and ride west parallel to tracks. Some short singletrack sections behind the apartment buildings. Cross tracks at some point and take the singletrack around the mesa, into the drainage culvert, then the singletrack crossing the dry streambed. We can then take the trail all the way to the Clairemont area, climbing out of the canyon near Diane Ave, then optionally head to another entrance to the canyon a couple of blocks over that drops in with a steeper descent before heading back the way we came. We can finish with a bonus singletrack section of questionable legality near the start of the ride.
Even though a beginner may find it somewhat challenging, I'd encourage any beginners to come. I think this trail system is good to get a taste of a bit more technical MTB without being overwhelming. I first rode this trail system on a fully rigid hybrid, and I didn't crash or anything. It also has pretty good variety of singletrack, doubletrack/fireroad, baby heads, gravel roads, and climbing/descending.
Some recommendations/warnings:
1)Poison Oak is known to live here. Don't go off trail exploring. I'll have a bottle of Ivy Block.
2)Cellphone is a good idea. The canyons are right in the middle of the city, so you'll probably get reception (you're also never far from "civilization").
3)Walk sections you don't feel comfortable with.
4)It is likely you will have to ride through a few inches of standing water. Take your bottle out of the cage or use a camelbak so that it doesn't get sprayed with the nasty water.
5)Please don't get hit by a train. Take care when near train tracks.
Final notes:
If you went on the Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban ride, remember what I mean by "Kinder, Gentler."
Rain cancels. Drizzle is not rain.
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Name of Ride: Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban Canyon MTB Ride
Date: 11/3/2007, hopefully
Start location: Nobel Athletic Area, https://maps.google.com/maps?client=s...=1&sa=N&tab=wl
Meet time: 8:30
Roll time: 9:00
Distance: Mountain Bike Bill says 16 miles
Elevation Gain: Some
Difficulty Level: No Drop . . . and I mean it.
Routeslip/Ride Description: Mountain Bike Bill has a good description here:
https://www.mountainbikebill.com/SanClementeCanyon.htm
Note that he says a beginner will find it somewhat challenging. It's true. I'm a beginner, I walk some of it. There's no shame in walking any section you don't feel comfortable trying. At least consider trying it though
New start point, new route, old canyon. We'll drop into the canyon near the 805 and ride west parallel to tracks. Some short singletrack sections behind the apartment buildings. Cross tracks at some point and take the singletrack around the mesa, into the drainage culvert, then the singletrack crossing the dry streambed. We can then take the trail all the way to the Clairemont area, climbing out of the canyon near Diane Ave, then optionally head to another entrance to the canyon a couple of blocks over that drops in with a steeper descent before heading back the way we came. We can finish with a bonus singletrack section of questionable legality near the start of the ride.
Even though a beginner may find it somewhat challenging, I'd encourage any beginners to come. I think this trail system is good to get a taste of a bit more technical MTB without being overwhelming. I first rode this trail system on a fully rigid hybrid, and I didn't crash or anything. It also has pretty good variety of singletrack, doubletrack/fireroad, baby heads, gravel roads, and climbing/descending.
Some recommendations/warnings:
1)Poison Oak is known to live here. Don't go off trail exploring. I'll have a bottle of Ivy Block.
2)Cellphone is a good idea. The canyons are right in the middle of the city, so you'll probably get reception (you're also never far from "civilization").
3)Walk sections you don't feel comfortable with.
4)It is likely you will have to ride through a few inches of standing water. Take your bottle out of the cage or use a camelbak so that it doesn't get sprayed with the nasty water.
5)Please don't get hit by a train. Take care when near train tracks.
Final notes:
If you went on the Kinder, Gentler, SD Urban ride, remember what I mean by "Kinder, Gentler."
Rain cancels. Drizzle is not rain.
In:
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DaveSANYYZ
chick-an:
merider1
Last edited by efficiency; 11-02-07 at 12:11 AM.
10-06-07, 11:41 PM
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How is the dificulty in relation to the Carbon Canyon ride?
( I don't want to drive that far for 5 miles of fireroad....)
( I don't want to drive that far for 5 miles of fireroad....)
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10-09-07, 09:15 PM
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I think you should go on Jeff's bombfest (lift access at Big Bear) Drew on the same day. I didn't really want to plan on the same day as that, but I have stuff coming up in November and I wanted to get an MTB ride on the calendar.
To answer the question you did ask, it's probably about the same difficulty as the Carbon Canyon ride. It's got less elevation than that ride (so no 35 mph fireroad bombing), but it's longer. It has singletrack sections at the beginning and middle, but there is a long doubletrack/fireroad section.
To answer the question you did ask, it's probably about the same difficulty as the Carbon Canyon ride. It's got less elevation than that ride (so no 35 mph fireroad bombing), but it's longer. It has singletrack sections at the beginning and middle, but there is a long doubletrack/fireroad section.
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I think you should go on Jeff's bombfest (lift access at Big Bear) Drew on the same day. I didn't really want to plan on the same day as that, but I have stuff coming up in November and I wanted to get an MTB ride on the calendar.
To answer the question you did ask, it's probably about the same difficulty as the Carbon Canyon ride. It's got less elevation than that ride (so no 35 mph fireroad bombing), but it's longer. It has singletrack sections at the beginning and middle, but there is a long doubletrack/fireroad section.
To answer the question you did ask, it's probably about the same difficulty as the Carbon Canyon ride. It's got less elevation than that ride (so no 35 mph fireroad bombing), but it's longer. It has singletrack sections at the beginning and middle, but there is a long doubletrack/fireroad section.
I think you just don't want to wait for me every mile or two...
Bomb fest for those that can't climb...
single track fireroad ride under 100% my own power....
Decisions decisions....
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10-10-07, 11:59 AM
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hope you have fun out here, pretty mellow trail, I've done it once a few yrs ago.
My bomber fest is still OPEN to those that are looking for a challenge above their normal trails.
My bomber fest is still OPEN to those that are looking for a challenge above their normal trails.
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Any more interest? Would more interest be garnered if this ride was on Sun Oct. 28th, even postponed one weekend (my Nov. schedule became a little clearer)?
I've also changed the start to the Nobel Athletic Area.
I've also changed the start to the Nobel Athletic Area.
10-20-07, 01:31 PM
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This ride is not that bad. I'll even hold your hand in the singletrack.
You can always walk sections you don't like. The singletrack here also doesn't really punish you for going slow, and it's mostly flat, with very few rocks (except for the streambed).
Some of the downhills might freak you out, but there aren't a lot of them and they aren't so technical. Control your speed and you'll be fine.
You can always walk sections you don't like. The singletrack here also doesn't really punish you for going slow, and it's mostly flat, with very few rocks (except for the streambed).
Some of the downhills might freak you out, but there aren't a lot of them and they aren't so technical. Control your speed and you'll be fine.
10-20-07, 02:07 PM
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This ride is not that bad. I'll even hold your hand in the singletrack.
You can always walk sections you don't like. The singletrack here also doesn't really punish you for going slow, and it's mostly flat, with very few rocks (except for the streambed).
Some of the downhills might freak you out, but there aren't a lot of them and they aren't so technical. Control your speed and you'll be fine.
You can always walk sections you don't like. The singletrack here also doesn't really punish you for going slow, and it's mostly flat, with very few rocks (except for the streambed).
Some of the downhills might freak you out, but there aren't a lot of them and they aren't so technical. Control your speed and you'll be fine.
You are bringing back memories of Marshall Canyon! 
10-20-07, 02:23 PM
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You know, you should try Marshall Canyon if you dig the singletrack/stream crossings. That was where some folks took me for my very first mountain bike ride.
10-21-07, 03:02 AM
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It's a bit out of the way for me but I'm in either way (this coming weekend or next). Next is even better since I have a friend visiting San Diego on business anyway that weekend.
10-21-07, 08:14 AM
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So you say Nov 3 is more convenient for you bpert? Is the time ok?
What about you Dave, you free on Nov 3?
What about you Dave, you free on Nov 3?
10-21-07, 09:00 AM
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Yep.
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No need to postpone for me. I can go the weekend before either Saturday or Sunday. Nov. 3rd is out for me, as I have plans, alhtough Sunday, the 4th of Nov. would work... Sorry to be difficult
10-23-07, 04:55 PM
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I had to postpone for air quality issues. Sunday I have this weird idea that I'm supposed to watch football.
11-02-07, 12:37 AM
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Oops I forgot. I think I'll be bailing.