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Old 02-25-08, 09:49 PM
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Redlands Classic/ BA Preview April 4-6

Last year a few of us did a preview of Breathless Agony on the same weekend as the Redlands Classic. I spent two days and one night out there watching the races and riding most of the BA course. I had a blast. The town was full af racing teams and my motel had 4 staying there alone. The road races are on Friday and Sunday with the crits in town on Saturday. My thought is to ride the BA course on Saturday, maybe make it back for the last crits in the afternoon. We had sag for the ride last year but I'm thinking it's very doable without. There are enough stores along the route to do it self supporting I think. I'm sure the people who live out there do that route all the time. The only deviation from the BA course I would do is to skip the Jack Rabbit Trail part and go directly from Redlands to Beaumont via San Timoteo. That's what I did last year with no problem. It cuts off about 10 miles but not much elevation gain. We would start at Sylvan Park on University in Redlands at 7am . Is there any interest? If not then I think all would at least enjoy the racing action and supporting our domestic teams where many prominent U.S. pro's ,men and women,have gotten their start. https://www.redlandsclassic.com/proStage.shtml

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Hi Bob,

Sounds good! I'm thinking that may be a conflict with the Hemet Double, but if not, I'll be there!

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Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR
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Sounds good! I'm thinking that may be a conflict with the Hemet Double, but if not, I'll be there!

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Ok Rick, let's see how things shake out but it's worth the trip there just to see the races. There is some nice riding out there in the spring.
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Possible for me - not sure I want to tackle the whole thing the week before Mulholland Challenge, but I wouldn't mind getting familiar with some of the course.
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I probably would be into doing a BA preview again.
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I would I have no idea of the first two passes and back to Mill Creek ranger, but I'm going to be in Ocotillo that weekend for the Spring Stagecoach. If you know the route out of Sylvan to Mill Creek would post it?
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A true classic.

Good times as a spectator and equally good on/off riding up to and around Angelus Oaks. Plenty of restaurants and a couple pubs (Royal Falconer!) that keep things interesting.


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Originally Posted by mtnmn
I would I have no idea of the first two passes and back to Mill Creek ranger, but I'm going to be in Ocotillo that weekend for the Spring Stagecoach. If you know the route out of Sylvan to Mill Creek would post it?
From Sylvan Park you would go north a couple of blocks to Hwy 38 and turn right. I'm sure there are other ways but that's the one I know.
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Bob,

I might be up for this, but I agree with Joel, I will be doing Mulholland the following weekend. Any idea of what the total mileage and elevation gain for just doing the ride you have planned to Angelus Oaks and back and not going all the way to the Onyx summit.
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Originally Posted by scvroadie
Bob,

I might be up for this, but I agree with Joel, I will be doing Mulholland the following weekend. Any idea of what the total mileage and elevation gain for just doing the ride you have planned to Angelus Oaks and back and not going all the way to the Onyx summit.
I'm guessing 80 miles and 8k+
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Originally Posted by vertical bob
From Sylvan Park you would go north a couple of blocks to Hwy 38 and turn right. I'm sure there are other ways but that's the one I know.
I don't think I asked the right question, I'd like to know if anybody knows the route From the start at Sylvan and following the BA description below ending at Mill Creek Ranger Station:

This option heads out of Redlands to some great country roads. The first pass is Jack Rabbit Trail. You will be treated to Food Stop #1 in Beaumont before the beautiful climb up the second pass to the apple orchards of Oak Glen!! This climb is one of the toughest on the Redlands Bicycle Classic, an event that attracts teams from around the world. You will climb 1,690 Feet in 4.8 Miles for an Average Grade of 6.7%!! There are some pieces that are over 11.4% which will leave you Breathless for sure so bring your climbing gears!! The reward is an incredible 7 mile downhill to Food Stop #2 at the Mill Creek Ranger Station
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[QUOTE=mtnmn;6245141]I don't think I asked the right question, I'd like to know if anybody knows the route From the start at Sylvan and following the BA description below ending at Mill Creek Ranger

Here ya go... You need to be careful on Jack Rabbit Trail as last year there were some areas with rain and road on that stretch is more gravel. The week before BA, it was not passeable as portions of the trail were full of rain. Frankly, if possible, it's probably better to start in Yucaipa (Yucaipa Regional Park perhaps?) if possible as the start in Sylvan Park till the 2nd rest stop is really not worth your while. Starting in Yucaipa will allow you to concentrate more on the climbs (Oak Glen, Angelus Oaks and Onyx (sp) Summit).

Dist Description
0.0 Sylvan Park
R 0.5 Cypress
L 1.2 Cajon St.
R 1.7 Highland Ave
L 2.1 Center
R 2.3 Crescent
L 2.7 Alessandro
3.2 Alessandro turns into Sunset Dr
L 4.2 San Timoteo Canyon
R 6.5 Redlands Blvd
L 11.8 Alessandro
L 12.8 Theodore
R 12.9 Alessandro
R 14.8 Gilman Springs
17.3 Quail Ranch Golf Course on left
L 17.8 Jack Rabbit Trail (1st Pass)
R 22.0 Highway 60
R 24.4 1st Beaumont Exit (6th St)
24.6 Name change to 6th St
L 25.4 Beaumont Ave.
R 26.6 Rest Stop #1 Stater Bros
34.9 Beaumont/Oak Glen Rd - Top of Oak Glen (2nd Pass)
R 41.0 Bryant
R 43.5 Highway 38 - Mill Creek Road
$ 43.6 Rest Stop #2 Ranger Station

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[QUOTE=IanInSD;6245436]
Originally Posted by mtnmn
I don't think I asked the right question, I'd like to know if anybody knows the route From the start at Sylvan and following the BA description below ending at Mill Creek Ranger

Here ya go... You need to be careful on Jack Rabbit Trail as last year there were some areas with rain and road on that stretch is more gravel. The week before BA, it was not passeable as portions of the trail were full of rain. Frankly, if possible, it's probably better to start in Yucaipa (Yucaipa Regional Park perhaps?) if possible as the start in Sylvan Park till the 2nd rest stop is really not worth your while. Starting in Yucaipa will allow you to concentrate more on the climbs (Oak Glen, Angelus Oaks and Onyx (sp) Summit).

Dist Description
0.0 Sylvan Park
R 0.5 Cypress
L 1.2 Cajon St.
R 1.7 Highland Ave
L 2.1 Center
R 2.3 Crescent
L 2.7 Alessandro
3.2 Alessandro turns into Sunset Dr
L 4.2 San Timoteo Canyon
R 6.5 Redlands Blvd
L 11.8 Alessandro
L 12.8 Theodore
R 12.9 Alessandro
R 14.8 Gilman Springs
17.3 Quail Ranch Golf Course on left
L 17.8 Jack Rabbit Trail (1st Pass)
R 22.0 Highway 60
R 24.4 1st Beaumont Exit (6th St)
24.6 Name change to 6th St
L 25.4 Beaumont Ave.
R 26.6 Rest Stop #1 Stater Bros
34.9 Beaumont/Oak Glen Rd - Top of Oak Glen (2nd Pass)
R 41.0 Bryant
R 43.5 Highway 38 - Mill Creek Road
$ 43.6 Rest Stop #2 Ranger Station

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My route will follow this to San Timoteo but instead of turning on Redlands Blvd just continue on San Tim. That's what we did last year Ian when we rode out there with Sarah. She will be racing this year with Bicycle Johns she is getting wicked fast. How about you, wanna join us?
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Thanks all
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[QUOTE=vertical bob;6245799]
Originally Posted by IanInSD
My route will follow this to San Timoteo but instead of turning on Redlands Blvd just continue on San Tim. That's what we did last year Ian when we rode out there with Sarah. She will be racing this year with Bicycle Johns she is getting wicked fast. How about you, wanna join us?

Yeah, I'm in as long as work does not interfere. It's been awhile since I've done some damage with ya VB.

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Lee, Laura, and Karen said they wanted to do this ride so I thought I would bump it to see if anyone else is in. They were thinking an 8am start would be good ,Ok by me.
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I'll be there riding that Savage Challenge thing. Is yours similar?
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Time to bump this ride. Is anyone interested? I would do it this Saturday the 5th leaving Sylvan Park in Redlands at 8am. Park on University where BA meets. https://www.redlandsclassic.com/proStage.shtml

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going..... going......
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Originally Posted by vertical bob
going..... going......
gone. Hope some of you take advantage of the chance to see the best domestic racing teams this country has to offer. I'll be at Sylvan Park at 7am Saturday if anyone wants to ride some of the BA route.
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Wow! I had a great weekend in Redlands. Saturday I got there early and rode over to Beaumont on San Timoteo then up and over Oak Glen. It was cloudy and cold and I didn't have enough clothes but somehow made it down from there. The ride through Damnation Alley wasn't too bad with a tail wind and the climb to Angelus Oaks was great. I rode up to about the 6000ft sign on 38 and returned to AO for fuel. While there, 2 separate groups of aquaintances showed up The Inland Inferno tri team stopped on the way down from Onyk and my friends from Okie cycling showed up having been up to Onyx as well. Neither had done Oak Glen though so I didn't feel too bad about not having gone to Onyk myself. They are some hard core cyclist cause believe me it was cold up there. On the way back I decided to try the climb to Forrest Falls. I had always wanted to try that and I'm glad I did. Really beautiful back in there but man it was steep
Today I rode up to Sunset Dr. above Redlands and did a few laps on the road course while the women raced. It was great to see those gals hammering up those hills. Then the men raced the same course. There were some huge stars there. Several of whom have stood on the podium at the TDF, + most of the top American pros , Tom Danielson, Fast Freddy, Tyler, et all.
The Redlands Classic is really a first class event , supported wonderfully by the local folk. I talked to a young man, probably 14, wearing braces in his pro kit as we were waiting for the field to come around and I ask him if he knew who some of the stars were. "Sure" he said, Tom Danielson and Tyler had stayed with his family when they were coming up through the ranks. It did my heart good so see people so interested in our sport and the way they supported the races. I urge all to take advantage of the opportunity to see some great racing , and to encourage the racers, Men and Women, with your attendance and cheers.
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So Rock Racing was there? How did Tyler do? Glad you had a great trip, Bob.
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So Rock Racing was there? How did Tyler do? Glad you had a great trip, Bob.
I left before they finished but the last lap I saw Rock had 4 or 5 guys on the front pulling Santiago Botero who was in yellow. Tyler was one of therm as were Sevilla and Klinger They seemed to be the class of the field. I'm assuming they brought him home to win.
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