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Old 01-24-10, 10:43 PM
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Coyote Creek Trail - anyone with pix or a review?

Any Coyote Creek riders out there?

Traillink, the Rails to Trails Conservancy's national data base of Class I trails could use some help with the Coyote Creek Trail. It is one of those wallflower trails. It has a page, but no one has posted a picture or done a review. Like going to the dance, but no one asks you to dance.

They have the trail mapped in, but not much more. No trailheads or facilities shown. No pix or reviews of the trail - except that I did a mercy review tonight (very limited) and posted a few pix of the trail to Oak Jr. High. A small start.

If you ride it, consider posting a review on the Coyote Creek page on traillink.com. Where are the trailheads? What are the good bits? Are there any facilities? Post some pix. Option 2 - post them here and I will crossdeck the data to TL in your name.
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I ride the Coyote Creek Trail all the time, getting on from Foster Road in La Mirada, where it starts (North End), and taking it to the junction with SGRT, then on to Seal Beach (15 mi.). I live in South Whittier, so easy for me!

Overall, not too bad, but in far worse condition than SART, for example. There are some rough spots, there are occasional gangs of kids on skateboards or with jump-bikes, plus homeless (some in tents!), but I've never had a problem with anyone.

There are two places where it crosses small (paved) creeks, so you have to go over a little bridge, which acts as a chicane if you're trying to go fast. Then there is one place where the path switches from the west side of Coyote Creek to the east side, but it's well marked and now you can ride the whole transition (they've taken out the little poles that used to require a dis-mount).

Of course, like most similar MUP's you go down then up under all the cross streets (23 times if you go all the way to Seal Beach). There are a few pedestrians, some with dogs and some with kids (with and without child buggies), but overall fewer per mile than SART.

So, overall, not bad but not wonderful either. Any questions?

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Thanks. That was quite helpful. With your permission, I will upload it to the CCT page on traillink as a review under your name.

WHERE TO STAGE FROM...
What would you suggest as trailheads for the ride? In urban setting we normally use the parks, but I don't see many on the trail. Out in the boonies there are formal trailheads. The John Wayne even has trailside camping spots. The Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes has numerous trailheads plus waysides in between along the trail. Water is scarce, however.

After Cerritos RP, where do you go? I see something parklike under the 91. Any water or restrooms there? Any good malls handy. They have the three essentials - parking, water, restrooms. Ususlly have the 4th - fast food.
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The crossing between levees is at Centralia/Crescent, basically the halfway point between Carson/Lincoln and Del Amo/La Palma. The only park I can think of that's more or less easily accessible from CCT is Cerritos Regional County Park. That's the one right next to the Target at Del Amo and Bloomfield, just north/upstream of the Pacific Electric bridge at Del Amo. Full-service there, in that it has restrooms and water and bike racks. Lots of parking, too, if you want to use that spot to start from.

I wish they'd open up those tributaries as trails, too, as one of them would be nearly perfect between Maxwell Park in Anaheim and CCT (and on to SGRT).
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toolbear[/B];10318789]Thanks. That was quite helpful. With your permission, I will upload it to the CCT page on traillink as a review under your name.
WHERE TO STAGE FROM?
I have no clue, so good to hear from Condorita! Yes, you can upload that bit to where ever you'd like, no worries.

I have noticed the park, but had no idea which one it was or what city it was in or anything, really. Re: parking, you could park in the residential community along Foster if it's just one or two cars.

On the other stuff (inlcuding parking), I've never really thought about it since I start from home (leave my car parked there!), bring two bottles, a Clif bar and a GU in my jersey pockets. There is a rest room near the River's End Cafe near the very end of the path (right before you hit the beach).

Thanks for your help Condorita!

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Originally Posted by Condorita
The crossing between levees is at Centralia/Crescent, basically the halfway point between Carson/Lincoln and Del Amo/La Palma. The only park I can think of that's more or less easily accessible from CCT is Cerritos Regional County Park. That's the one right next to the Target at Del Amo and Bloomfield, just north/upstream of the Pacific Electric bridge at Del Amo. Full-service there, in that it has restrooms and water and bike racks. Lots of parking, too, if you want to use that spot to start from.

I wish they'd open up those tributaries as trails, too, as one of them would be nearly perfect between Maxwell Park in Anaheim and CCT (and on to SGRT).
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I see a bridge at 226th St., by a school, but there is a locked gate on that levee (amazing what you can see from space with Google Earth ... portapotties on the SART, water fountains on the Walnut Trail, etc.). Local access?

What is in that park under the 91? Water? Loos? (don't see any). Wrong side of creek?
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I ride it every once in a while, taking a loop from whittier south by general way of mills / inez or leland / marquadt, taking the CC path to the beach and looping back to whittier on the SGRT. I agree w/ all the comments so far. I've got to add it's one of the more desolate trails in L.A. The SF Springs section in the north is industrial ugly. Hardly any parks (none on the northern section, IIRC). No watering holes there, either, so bring your water bottle and GU. You'll generally have a headwind, sometimes strong, 'til Cerritos. Lots of concrete, little shade or even anyplace decent to stop in that area. Will get hot on summer and early fall afternoons. Once you get south of Cerritos RP it's more scenic. Haven't had any trouble yet with anyone on the path - in fact, I rarely see people on it. But I suppose it's good for a workout (no distractions nor even a reason to stop) and to get away from it all.

2 things to improve it - add a park in SF Springs (but who would use it?), and extend the path north to Lambert/Mills/Whittier bike path. There is a park at Marquadt/Foster that you could use as a starting point. Don't know about the facilities there, though. Street parking should be plentiful there on weekends.
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2 things to improve it - add a park in SF Springs (but who would use it?), and extend the path north to Lambert/Mills/Whittier bike path. There is a park at Marquadt/Foster that you could use as a starting point. Don't know about the facilities there, though. Street parking should be plentiful there on weekends.[/QUOTE]

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I see that there is a Whittier Greenway Trail from over by the 605 to Mills Ave. Is that the Lambert Mills bike path or is that one new to me?
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I see that there is a Whittier Greenway Trail from over by the 605 to Mills Ave. Is that the Lambert Mills bike path or is that one new to me?
I was saying extend to the Lambert/Mills intersection where the Greenway Trail starts (heads west along Lambert). Mills also becomes a class 2 north of the intersection, so you can also ride north and then turn west on Whittier Blvd - it's got nice wide shoulders between Mills and Hadley.
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I've ridden the Creek a few times. I enter on Rosecrans after riding a few miles from my home. I'll agree with the other posters. Reading the other posts, I can't say I would be able to add to the discussion much. It's an okay ride. Not alot of people on it when I'm on in the weekend mornings. The amount rises when it links up to the south with the SGRT. When I head off to the Cerritos Regional County Park for a break, I'm the only cyclist around.
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Originally Posted by insidious meme
... The amount rises when it links up to the south with the SGRT. When I head off to the Cerritos Regional County Park for a break, I'm the only cyclist around.
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Anyone have any pix of the trail?

Yes, I know. Why would you wish to? It's not the Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes. I take them for the survey record - like a transect. Here is the up and down trail views at spot x, y, z, etc. Here are these features. Here is a nice view. Here is a wayside. Here is sunset over the drainage channel.

I did notice a reasonable number of users on that Sunday afternoon in the lower section.

Cerritos Retional OK for a trail head? Some parks feel OK. Some feel like the smart move is to move on out. Liberty Park in Cerritos on the SGRT was doing a lot of bike business plus famlies with kids, etc., etc. It had a comfy feel. I checked out Liberty, Rynerson, El Dorado and Liberty is the best option in that section.

Yorba - the city park - next to Yorba Regional was obviously a popular trailhead for the upper SART. (It is free.), but the sign said that gang activity in the park was illegal. (That solved the problem.) Didn't have any bad vibrations. Trails like LARIO which traverse much of the demographics of LA from the sea inland, through the industrial center of things demand that you watch your 6 as well as your 12 and survey underpasses from a distance. What did the review say? Don't stop for flats, water or to find a restroom, and don't go alone.
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Cerritos Regional has a LOT more parking than either Liberty or Rynerson, even if you keep to the trailside parking. And Liberty is a straight shot out 195th. The only photos I have taken on CCT are of the PE right-of-way.

Cerritos is very "house proud" and takes good care of their parks.
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Originally Posted by Condorita
. . . Cerritos is very "house proud" and takes good care of their parks.
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Certainly Liberty was a good-looking park and had a lot of business. I tried to check out Wilderness Park, up the line but there was a man wanting $2 to park and no in n outs. I will check it out from the trail. Santa Fe Springs Park, just above the 5 looks like another trailhead option.
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