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Old 01-29-10, 10:12 PM
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Rio Hondo to San Gabriel River Trail - do they connect?

Is there any bike trail connection between the Rio Hondo and the SGRT in the vicinity of the Whittier Narrows that would make a loop ride possible?

With poor eyesight to the rear, I am too easy a target on the roads.

I traced the Rio H from Peck Rd Park down to the intersection of the 19 and San Gabriel Blvd and lost it there.

(TrailLink.com does not have the Rio Hondo listed, so anyone with a good GPS can do the survey and get it on the database.)
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Yes. Disregard the bypass info which was from a couple years ago when some repairs were being made.
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Check out this map
https://www.metro.net/riding_metro/bi...a_bike_map.pdf

If you were at the corner of Rosemead Blvd (19) and SG Blvd, then you were really close to the SGRT trail connector, which is on the southeast side of that intersection.
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Thanks for the map. That from the NG topo set? Son gave me one - zillion disks - but it might work for bike trail survey.

The 2008 Garmin topo is so full of errors. The 60CSX is great, but the software sux. Down in Irvine it was reporting me on the other side of the freeway, etc.

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Tnx for the metro map. Saved it to the SGRT file and printed out a set of details. I could follow the trail up to the inersection. Then it went ?? Does it have an underpass because there is something listed as a road which looks like a bike trial and it connect to the SGRT. The GE resolution of this area is not good. Irvine, I can pick out water fountains. SART- I can see the outhouses.

Looks like one could do a "J" ride from the top of the Hondo over to SGRT and up to the mountains. I suspect connecting the top of the RHT to SGRT means going cross-lots.
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There is a gate on the northwest side of the intersection at Durfee and Rosemead that provides access to the Lario path which goes northwest to what I think you have referred to as the Peck Rd. Park. Passing through the intersection on Durfee to Lincoln Ave. and turning S at the light will put you at the Rio Hondo bike path which will connect to the L.A. River north of Long Beach. Taking the Lario trail north will take you to Peck Road at the park, which turns into Myrtle just south of Monrovia. Taking the SGRT N from the Whittier Narrows dam will go up through the Santa Fe flood control area along the San Gabriel River to Hiway 39 which can be taken to hiway 2 (Angeles Crest) in the Angeles National Forest, or one can take East Fork north of the reservoirs over to the back of GMR.

In short, there are a myriad of routes that can be made in the area, all on paved road.
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Here is my mapmyride routemap for the LA River, Rio Hondo River, San Gabriel River Trail loop:

https://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...23883965291196

This will show you the Rio Hondo/San Gabriel connection.
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Here is my mapmyride routemap for the LA River, Rio Hondo River, San Gabriel River Trail loop:

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Tnx. Got Google E up and am marking the route.

Interesting route map. Are the LA River reviews true: Don't stop for flats, water or finding a restroom and don' go alone? Certainly not a scenic ride in the middle regions.

It is certainly an orphan trail on the traillink data base. Map line with one parking and one trail end icon (Long Beach). No trailheads, restrooms, parking access or water shown. No pix. No reviews. If you folks have pix and comments on it, post 'em and I will see they get over to traillink.
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Originally Posted by JustMe
There is a gate on the northwest side of the intersection at Durfee and Rosemead that provides access to the Lario path which goes northwest to what I think you have referred to as the Peck Rd. Park. Passing through the intersection on Durfee to Lincoln Ave. and turning S at the light will put you at the Rio Hondo bike path which will connect to the L.A. River north of Long Beach. Taking the Lario trail north will take you to Peck Road at the park, which turns into Myrtle just south of Monrovia. Taking the SGRT N from the Whittier Narrows dam will go up through the Santa Fe flood control area along the San Gabriel River to Hiway 39 which can be taken to hiway 2 (Angeles Crest) in the Angeles National Forest, or one can take East Fork north of the reservoirs over to the back of GMR.
In short, there are a myriad of routes that can be made in the area, all on paved road.
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It looks like one segment of the Rio Hondo Trail ends at the intersection of San Gabriel Blvd and Rosemead. There appears to be a parking lot and restroom at the NW corner there. Trail head? Park access? If I read it right, the RHT starts again on the S side of San Gab. Blvd where E. Lincoln "t"s into the SG. I suspect something called Siphon Rd. on GE is the connector from the SGB x Rosemead intersection to the SGRT. Really need to spend a day up there with the GPS, but that will be some weeks off.
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You must be looking a Thomas Bros. map. Siphon Rd. is the connector between SGRT and the Rio Hondo, but it's not a public thoroughfare, just bike path through the flood basin behind Whittier Dam. I think the structure you see on the NW corner of Rosemead & San Gabriel/Durfee Rd. is some sort of a shrine or monument. There are no facilities at the location to my knowledge, but then I've never stopped to investigate. That part of the trail goes north past the El Monte Municipal Airport ending at Peck Rd. Park. The Trail continues south from the junction of Lincoln Ave. & San Gabriel as you indicate.

I don't particularly consider any portion of the trail scenic by any means, it is, however, interesting to watch the model airplanes, both RC and WC fly at the airpark on weekends. If I recall correctly, there is a link from one of the L.A. Metro Bike Path websites to a photojournal site that has photographs of much of the L.A. River and Rio Hondo bike paths depicted.
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Just a side note are you doing this solo? some areas you are looking at may not be the type of places you want to ride alone, it that case it may be better to use the roadways and bypass some areas of the trail if you use them solo a group would be much better, get some insight from those who ride upper section of the trail you are asking about. I have heard some areas are not very safe alone, I may be wrong but something to ask about.
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[QUOTE=JustMe;10355490]You must be looking a Thomas Bros. map. Siphon Rd. is the connector between SGRT and the Rio Hondo, but it's not a public thoroughfare, just bike path through the flood basin behind Whittier Dam. I think the structure you see on the NW corner of Rosemead & San Gabriel/Durfee Rd. is some sort of a shrine or monument. There are no facilities at the location to my knowledge, but then I've never stopped to investigate. That part of the trail goes north past the El Monte Municipal Airport ending at Peck Rd. Park. The Trail continues south from the junction of Lincoln Ave. & San Gabriel as you indicate.

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I am using Google Earth - which shows the Siphon Rd., which looks more a bike trail.

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As a solo rider, I would love to know where the usual ambush spots are located all the better to avoid. Which parts of the trail are considered trouble?

I have no plans to solo the LARIO, at least the middle reaches. Wonder how far south on the RHT one can go before it gets iffy.

What is the security word on the SGRT? Weekend at Liberty Park there seemed to be a lot of traffic.
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I think the structure you see on the NW corner of Rosemead & San Gabriel/Durfee Rd. is some sort of a shrine or monument.
That's the Bosque del Rio Hondo (sp?). I believe it's a small wilderness area actually owned by Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy. $4 to park, there's a box at the entrance. There's a couple of picnic benches... don't know how the restrooms are. Generally very quiet there. That area (Whittier Narrows) is one of the more interesting parts of the SGRT. If you ride the cutover around sunrise, you'll see rabbits galore, and an occasional coyote (or two!).

I haven't had any problems w/ riding the SGRT solo. It seems to be a bit more used and seems to seldomly have any shady characters these days, but keep your eyes open in Bellflower and parts of Downey. I consider it safer than RHT/LA River, though. I don't ride it at night, but since there's no lights on the trail, most people don't do that anyways. I suppose you should try to look like you mean business if you ever run past any riff-raff, but sometimes that stuff is random. YMMV.
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I haven't had any problems w/ riding the SGRT solo. It seems to be a bit more used and seems to seldomly have any shady characters these days, but keep your eyes open in Bellflower and parts of Downey. I consider it safer than RHT/LA River, though. I don't ride it at night, but since there's no lights on the trail, most people don't do that anyways. I suppose you should try to look like you mean business if you ever run past any riff-raff, but sometimes that stuff is random. YMMV.

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Bellflower and Downey ("Where the freeways meet"?) Wife was thinking El Monte. I do carry "potpourii" ready to hand.

I was thinking more a weekend ride. Work weeks. BTW - if you do want night riding, Irvine has miles of bollard lights on their 44.5 miles of Class I trails. It's a very nice system. I really need to get over and see Peters Canyon or Venta Spur or Hicks Canyon by night. Don't recall any on San Diego Creek Trail - the backbone of the system. A neat night ride might be the Woodbridge Trail with the two lakes.
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If you see a middle aged woman on a pink bike, beware. I've heard that she can be a problem.

Maybe you could placate her with some "potpourii"...
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Watch out for the crazywoman with the hockey helmet, too.
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Watch out for the crazywoman with the hockey helmet, too.
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Sounds like the trail sports a diverse demographic
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Originally Posted by toolbear
Here is my mapmyride routemap for the LA River, Rio Hondo River, San Gabriel River Trail loop:

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Tnx. Got Google E up and am marking the route.

Interesting route map. Are the LA River reviews true: Don't stop for flats, water or finding a restroom and don' go alone? Certainly not a scenic ride in the middle regions.

It is certainly an orphan trail on the traillink data base. Map line with one parking and one trail end icon (Long Beach). No trailheads, restrooms, parking access or water shown. No pix. No reviews. If you folks have pix and comments on it, post 'em and I will see they get over to traillink.
Hi, I have ridden the Rio Hondo/LA Riverbed solo many times, early, midday or late and never had a problem with any one. I live in Downey and hop on at Crawford park by Ford Park. There are a few homeless people at PCH area, some ruff looking men on occasion but also solo women, girls, families, of all types. I have crashed twice in the last three months and have received help. The water and restrooms are hard to get to because unlike the SGRB where there are just off the trail, you have to use steps and are about 150 to 200 yards away. I am 64, 5 feet 8 inches and weigh 199 pounds(soon to be less). A lot of city workers are out during the week, the trail is in better condition than the SGRB. Lately there has been a lot of birds and bird watchers, wild life, and water! in the river bed. Ride safe.
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Hi, I have ridden the Rio Hondo/LA Riverbed solo many times, early, midday or late and never had a problem with any one. I live in Downey and hop on at Crawford park by Ford Park. There are a few homeless people at PCH area, some ruff looking men on occasion but also solo women, girls, families, of all types. I have crashed twice in the last three months and have received help. The water and restrooms are hard to get to because unlike the SGRB where there are just off the trail, you have to use steps and are about 150 to 200 yards away. I am 64, 5 feet 8 inches and weigh 199 pounds(soon to be less). A lot of city workers are out during the week, the trail is in better condition than the SGRB. Lately there has been a lot of birds and bird watchers, wild life, and water! in the river bed. Ride safe.
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Thanks for the input. When I finish up down in south OC, I need to get get over there.
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