Midnight Ridazz group hit by car
I hope that everyone is okay out there and I wish you a speedy recovery if there are any injuries.
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-mew-c...ntent=My+Yahoo |
Wow!
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Every group rider's worst nightmare...:(
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Also email Police Sgt. David Krumer 35128@lapd.lacity.org
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Originally Posted by alicestrong
(Post 12797418)
Also email Police Sgt. David Krumer 35128@lapd.lacity.org
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Originally Posted by sdgrannygear
(Post 12797665)
Or call the perp directly and explain how her actions make you feel.
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just because they found alcohol near where the cyclers were does not mean cyclers were at fault. the girl just plowed through them.
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Originally Posted by Bobsled
(Post 12797725)
I love it! Everyone wants to be on these social networking sites to stay connected with "friends". Little do they realize there is a liability with them if they do something bad which leaves them exposed to the people they have wronged when they call them out.
Link is broken BTW. |
...BUT...I'm not sure how productive it would be to contact her directly. She's a young girl ( at least to me she's young). She's going to have to face a world of pain as a result of this...
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Watched the ABC/NBC video and read the article. Interesting group of folks riding. At first I assumed it was like a criterium group or something but it appears to be just be a group of guys that like to get together and just happen to be on fixie bikes. Unfortunately for all, the riders will bear some responsbility for their negligence (bikes were not suppose to be there at all) and I would bet the driver is most likely uninsured or underinsured and has/little or no money. Oh well... the risk people take when they ride at night - all those drunk drivers out there.
I pray and hope everyone, regardless, is OK. And the whole posting the facebook thing... grow up man. How cruel is that? It was just a dumb stupid girl doing a dumb stupid thing she will have to pay dearly for. |
Originally Posted by aprevo15
(Post 12797905)
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Where's that phone # at? I should give her a call and ask if she wants to go drinking this weekend. |
Originally Posted by Pamestique
(Post 12797992)
And the whole posting the facebook thing... grow up man. How cruel is that? It was just a dumb stupid girl doing a dumb stupid thing she will have to pay dearly for. |
Originally Posted by Bobsled
(Post 12798055)
Haha, I wonder which one is Ms. Dahab? The one giving the finger, the one with her boob hangin out, or the one just chillin in the back?
Where's that phone # at? I should give her a call and ask if she wants to go drinking this weekend. :innocent: |
Was there not an incident of the like in that area about a year ago?
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Originally Posted by Pamestique
(Post 12797992)
Unfortunately for all, the riders will bear some responsbility for their negligence (bikes were not suppose to be there at all) and I would bet the driver is most likely uninsured or underinsured and has/little or no money.
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Originally Posted by Pamestique
(Post 12797992)
. . . I would bet the driver is most likely uninsured or underinsured and has/little or no money. . . .
It was just a dumb stupid girl doing a dumb stupid thing she will have to pay dearly for. |
Originally Posted by JustMe
(Post 12799056)
What's she going to pay with if she doesn't have anything??
I hope that she at least carries basic liability...also future earnings can be affected by court decisions. |
Originally Posted by sdgrannygear
(Post 12798241)
It was tongue in cheek, I don't mean for anyone to seriously call her unless they want to. But don't defend her by saying it's dumb and stupid as if it's just one of those things that happen to youths. This is beyond that.
Also to the legal issues on both sides, its up to the police investigators and the Court to decide. I admit I don't know the facts but have seen in news reports that bike riding is specifically prohibited at night in that area. CA is a comparative liability state so negligence can be assessed on both sides. Here is the rub... she may have seriously injured a number of people but if she has no money or insurance, they can't collect. She won't be jailed... jails are overcrowded as it is and seriously violate criminals are released as it is so nothing will happen to her (OK she will lose her license if not alredy but as we know so what?). This is where we need to get active and change laws. |
Originally Posted by alicestrong
(Post 12800168)
I hope that she at least carries basic liability...also future earnings can be affected by court decisions.
And Courts seldom attached damages to future earnings... it would be up to the claimants to go after this woman after a civil trial. What attorney would handle a case against someone who has no money to collect? |
I hate to say it Alice, but HA! Any financial liability for "accidental" injury or damage can be expunged in bankruptcy. The list of debtor exemptions in California is extensive. Basically, anything the court deems necessary to provide the basic necessities of life can be exempted from paying a money judgment. A judgment can be recorded with the county recorder, and remains valid for 10 years, at which time it expires unless renewed by the creditor. If the driver has complied with the financial responsibility laws of California, she carries a 15/30 public liability policy. That means $15,000 / person injured, $30,000 total for paying all monetary damages.
There is at least one, if not more, people in critical condition, that most likely means an intensive care unit. How far is $15,000 going to go for medical bills, not to mention future loss of earnings due to disability, and medical expenses for any residual condition that resulted. Unless, and until, the federal bankruptcy laws are seriously curtailed, and state debtor exemption laws are repealed to make people financially responsible for the consequences of their conduct, the idea of being adequately compensated for damages by an individual is a joke, and the basic reason an attorney looks for a deep pocket such as a large corporation or municipality to name as a party to a lawsuit for damages. In this case, it may well be Culver City for failing to adequately maintain street lighting. Of course, if the city is found responsible for damages, the city will raise the revenue to pay for the damages through increased taxes and/or fees, so the residents of the city will pay the bill instead of the primary responsible party, the driver of the car. Not an opinion; just fact. |
Wow, is anybody else depressed...? :(
Still, we ride...right? We keep riding... |
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