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Old 07-13-11, 11:01 AM
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This may be a noob question about Azusa Hwy 39

So yesterday I went the furthest I have ever been on the 39. About 13 miles I believe. I start at the parking lot by the ranger station at the end of Azusa St. All was well until I got a section where two swinging gates were open and a sign was posted on the side. It said "Pedestrians, Bicycles, Motor driven Cycles Prohibited". Now I'm fairly sure this was still the 39, feel free to let me now if it is not, and I've read and been told that's how you get to Crystal Lake. So my question is, Whats up with that? Is this the way it always is? I've noticed only one intersection that takes you what I believe is east onto the shooting range out there. Please and clarification would be quite appreciated.
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Old 07-13-11, 11:06 AM
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This may help:
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Old 07-13-11, 11:34 AM
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Crystal Lake is on the top of the 39. There's a cafe (cash only), bathrooms, etc. Ride down is nice.
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Old 07-13-11, 11:50 AM
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The sign you refer to is from when the open gate was closed.

HWY 39 is now open to Crystal Lake. Some point shortly after Crystal Lake, there is a closed gate, which is easily passed, but be careful-- the road conditions between the closed gate and HWY 2 are bad: many rocks, small and large, cover the entire road, and there is even a short (200 foot?) dirt section.

Here is a link to the Crystal Lake Recreation Area on Google Maps, if you want to see how far you have to go to reach it from your start point.
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Old 07-13-11, 12:04 PM
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So that sign is irrelevant now, right. Its just past the area where you can walk down to the small stream. I want to be 100% sure before I go up there. Has anyone been up there recently?
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Old 07-13-11, 05:29 PM
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Actually, that sign was considered irrelevant by many here even when the gate was closed. It has been there for several years, and there is one at the junction with Hwy 2, but neither the forest service or local sheriff's that patrolled that section of Hwy. 39 above the gate when it was closed ever made an issue of riding the closed section of road.
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Old 07-13-11, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMe View Post
Actually, that sign was considered irrelevant by many here even when the gate was closed. It has been there for several years, and there is one at the junction with Hwy 2, but neither the forest service or local sheriff's that patrolled that section of Hwy. 39 above the gate when it was closed ever made an issue of riding the closed section of road.
I've actually had a ranger push the lower gate open for me and wave me through when the road was closed. Another time I had a different ranger chase me off when I tried to go around the gate at the 2 and 39 junction. He told me to read the sign. Just depends on who you encounter and their mood that day. There were also a few weeks before the 39 opened to Crystal Lake that a CHP car was parked at the gate and threatening to ticket cyclists attempting to go up the road. But to answer the OP's question, basically nobody has bothered yet to remove the now irrelevant sign. They probably figure since the sign was completely ignored when the road was closed why go through the trouble of removing it now, nobody reads it anyways.
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Old 07-13-11, 06:59 PM
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That is such great news. I cant tell you how bummed out I felt when I saw it and and thought that was the end of my adventures on the 39. Now I cant wait to get to crystal lake. One more question. Is there water anywhere between that point and the start of the road at the bottom? I take two water bottles and ride in the morning so I haven't run out yet but I don't want to risk it. Cant wait to see you all out there.
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Old 07-13-11, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rooftest View Post
There is a stream on one of the corners very close to the top. Some will drink from it, some won't. I drove up there a while back and followed it to its' source - so I won't. (A few angry responses to that last statement are guaranteed.)

At any rate, the opening of the snack bar up there has made it a moot point.

Other than that, there is a spigot at the ranger station just past East Fork. (a ranger once advised me not to drink it; but I don't think it would be a problem.) The spigot at Camp Williams is safe, free, and always on.

Every other spigot I've come across up there is either clearly marked "not potable," or doesn't work.
The stream you refer to is at a switchback in the road below some cabins. Right at the cabins, at yet another switchback in the road is a spring that is as good a source of water as you will ever find. Have been drinking from it for over 40 years and have never had a problem. Seeing how it is a spring and not a stream, it's source is underground and protected from any source of contamination. There are plenty of riders unaware of these facts, but any that have knowledge of the source will and do drink from it without any repercussions. I dare anyone to say they got sick from drinking from that spring, and can prove it. Never happens. Of course the decision to drink from it is always the riders, but if it means water or not having water at that point on the climb, I say drink from it. It is the best water source in the Southern California mountains.

P.S. LOL My response is not angry, just informed.
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Old 07-13-11, 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the info, I think that I will try this spring. Hell, we pay good money for "spring" water why not give the real thing a try.
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Old 07-13-11, 09:45 PM
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I'll 2nd Hillbasher's representation. Though I can speculate on conditions which might contaminate a spring, it is not as susceptible to contamination as surface water like a stream is. Know several people that use that spring, including myself, without reservation.
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Old 07-13-11, 09:56 PM
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OK; I'll post this USGS topo map for the umpteenth time. Please note that the USGS designates the location as a "spring", and it is in an area geographically named "Falling Springs". So I wouldn't attribute the designation of it being a spring as Hillbasher's, but each to his own.

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Old 07-15-11, 02:45 PM
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OK; I'll post this USGS topo map for the umpteenth time. Please note that the USGS designates the location as a "spring", and it is in an area geographically named "Falling Springs". So I wouldn't attribute the designation of it being a spring as Hillbasher's, but each to his own.

And a nice map it is, Gene. Love seeing it posted here every now and then. The non-believers do not know what they are missing.
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Old 07-15-11, 03:07 PM
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Did someone take their ball and go home?? I guess it's just us believers Bill.
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I'll 2nd Hillbasher's representation. Though I can speculate on conditions which might contaminate a spring, it is not as susceptible to contamination as surface water like a stream is. Know several people that use that spring, including myself, without reservation.
I would do this ride for no other reason but to drink from that spring. Seriously, in Southern California, the opportunity to drink straight from 'the source' does not come often.
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Old 07-20-11, 11:03 AM
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how are the roads on hwy39?
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how are the roads on hwy39?
Good until you reach the closed gate past Crystal Lake, then pretty poor.
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Old 07-20-11, 11:41 PM
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thanks
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I was up there about a month ago.. can't believe I made it up there with a 53/39 and an 11-25.. I was a man possessed that day! Anyways... it's an amazing ride and I do recommend it! It's not the steepest ride but it never stops till the top!
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How far do most of you go? Do you take the east fork or keep straight? Also, anyone see that dead baby skunk on Tuesday?
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Old 07-22-11, 12:42 AM
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East Fork goes over to Williams Camp, and the back side of GMR. Hwy 39 goes to Hwy 2 (Angeles Crest Hwy), at Islip Saddle, after the turn off to Crystal Lake. Presently, the last six miles of Hwy 39, between the Crystal Lake turnoff and Hwy 2, is in pretty marginal condition due to rock debris and broken pavement, but it is passable.
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How far do most of you go? Do you take the east fork or keep straight? Also, anyone see that dead baby skunk on Tuesday?
East Fork is about 13.8 miles to the Crystal Lake snack bar area. Its not much of a snack bar, nothing like Newcomb's Ranch on Angeles Crest Hwy. There is no lake there at that Snack Bar and Visitor's Center. Crystal Lake is not visible on the road. When going up, the lake is to the left about 0.7 miles before reaching the snack bar and visitor's center. There is a sign that points to the left. Even after you turn left, you have to walk a bit to get to the lake. They just put some trout there recently but they're not acclimated yet and are not biting. Its more of a hike to get there and not really a bike ride to the lake. In the winter the volunteer rangers say it freezes but he never saw anyone try to ice skate there.
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