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Mike F 01-19-12 10:42 PM

Another needless accident..
 
Sounds like the rider did nothing wrong and he never saw it coming. Hope he recovers and I also hope the Sgt is wrong on his prognosis.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rrento-valley/

Jaguar27 01-20-12 12:45 AM

Another life ruined by a Driver on a Cell Phone...so sad.

I was reading this article earlier today which rightly says "I didn't see them" shouldn't be any kind of defence.

CbadRider 01-20-12 10:00 AM

I wish the police would be more active in cracking down on people who use cell phones while driving. The city of San Diego could wipe out their budget deficit from the fines collected.

idoru2005 01-20-12 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jaguar27 (Post 13742932)
Another life ruined by a Driver on a Cell Phone...so sad.

I was reading this article earlier today which rightly says "I didn't see them" shouldn't be any kind of defence.


"I didn't see him" should be construed as an admission of guilt, IMO.

calamarichris 01-20-12 12:37 PM

Was nearly killed on Tuesday by a woman on her cellphone who made a right-hand turn into me.
I'm not proud of my adrenaline-fueled response, but fortunately she was also too focused on her conversation to notice the loogie sliding down her driver-side window too.

jmX 01-20-12 01:03 PM

This is why I spend 80% of my time on the SART, especially during busy work days. :( If I didn't have kids things would be different.

Rick@OCRR 01-20-12 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by jmX (Post 13744813)
This is why I spend 80% of my time on the SART, especially during busy work days. :( If I didn't have kids things would be different.

Well, I do have kids, in fact I have grandkids, but I still spend 98% of my cycling time on open roads, streets, etc. The other 2% are on the SGRT and Coyote Creek MUP's.

With all the crazy things humans do, I'm not so sure the MUP's are any safer than the roads, streets, etc. That said, you have be on a constant look-out and a high state of awareness (pretty much) all the time out there.

Maybe the cager sees you, maybe he/she doesn't, but they can kill you either way.

Be carefull out there!

Rick / OCRR

dahvaio 01-20-12 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mike F (Post 13742718)
Sounds like the rider did nothing wrong and he never saw it coming. Hope he recovers and I also hope the Sgt is wrong on his prognosis.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rrento-valley/

75 Years Old and A Woman.. Nuff Said..

I hate reading stories like this because the punishment will never fit the "crime". As with JMX, I primarily ride the SART due to safety reasons and it is pretty much my backyard.

idoru2005 01-20-12 05:10 PM

I see why one would stick to the SART for riding. It's very convenient for me (close to work). But it plain sucks for scenery and comes with its own set of dangers. I get absolutely no enjoyment riding on the SART. For me, riding has to be enjoyable to be worth doing. That's the reason I switch between 3 or more different routes for my daily commute. Only one of them involves riding on the SART.

Jmx, you gotta get out to an OC Rebels ride sometime.

Jan Feetz 01-20-12 05:26 PM

That story is really messed up. But from a motorist point of view, do cyclist ride safely? This link was right next to that article:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/...ed-south-park/

volosong 01-20-12 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mike F (Post 13742718)

In the bike lane, and was rear ended! That's one reason I ALWAYS ride with a strobe front light and the brightest strobe tail light I can find. Might not work, but I do notice that "most" cars give me a little bit more room.

Poor fellow. Article says that if he survives, he will be crippled to the end of his days. Try to be safe, everyone.

Mike F 01-20-12 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jan Feetz (Post 13745922)
That story is really messed up. But from a motorist point of view, do cyclist ride safely? This link was right next to that article:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/...ed-south-park/

I work near South Park and some of those riders are nuts. Its Hipster Heaven. I cant tell you how many times I see a guy riding down hill on Broadway, A or B Street on the double yellow going 30 + without helmet. As a rider watching this I pray they dont crash and then think "Thats the kinda ******bag that give us all a bad name".

ooga-booga 01-21-12 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mike F (Post 13746481)
I work near South Park and some of those riders are nuts. Its Hipster Heaven. I cant tell you how many times I see a guy riding down hill on Broadway, A or B Street on the double yellow going 30 + without helmet. As a rider watching this I pray they dont crash and then think "Thats the kinda ******bag that give us all a bad name".

yah mike f...i live in south park and anything resembling a stop at a stop sign and helmets are both rarities indeed. amazed there aren't more accidents/injuries

Jed19 01-21-12 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 13746383)
In the bike lane, and was rear ended! That's one reason I ALWAYS ride with a strobe front light and the brightest strobe tail light I can find. Might not work, but I do notice that "most" cars give me a little bit more room.

I always make it a point to pull up to cyclist I see riding in the dark without tail light and suggest they get one. I sometimes struggle with the notion that "it's really none of my business", but I just can't help myself. I always first identify myself as a "fellow cyclist", and I have never had anyone suggest I should go climb a tree.

Just tonight driving south on PCH from Sunset Beach, I saw a guy -in full kit- riding that long stretch between Warner and Golden West with the strongest of front light, but no (I mean none) tail light. I waited up for him and suggested he get a tail light, and he was nice about it. He was of the view that it was not that necessary, but he is gonna get one anyway.

Please, try and be safe out there.

Mr. Beanz 01-21-12 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by jmX (Post 13744813)
This is why I spend 80% of my time on the SART, especially during busy work days.



Ditto!:D...I see plenty of cyclist on the cell as well so nobody is holy cause they are on a bike. But atleast I have a chance of throwing my elbow into a jaw if they run into me head on. I'd lose evertime with a car.:innocent:

Good thing is that I don't care much about scenery.:p

jmX 01-21-12 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR (Post 13744843)
With all the crazy things humans do, I'm not so sure the MUP's are any safer than the roads, streets, etc. That said, you have be on a constant look-out and a high state of awareness (pretty much) all the time out there.

Sure, and more people get hurt using box cutters than dynamite every year, but which injuries do you think are worse?

I'm willing to risk a broken shoulder from MUP madness, I'm less willing to risk getting rearended at 55mph by grandma. I minimize that risk by doing many training rides on the SART, where scenery is the least of my concerns. Besides, the place is practically empty when I'm out there.


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