Cyclist down in Irvine.
I just read that a cyclist went down in Irvine this morning.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/bicyc...ies-crash.html Please pray for him and his family. |
Originally Posted by Jed19
(Post 13852406)
I just read that a cyclist went down in Irvine this morning.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/bicyc...ies-crash.html Please pray for him and his family. That's the business area near lakeshore towers huh? I hope this wasn't someone late to work, speeding and not paying attention during morning rush hour. :( |
Originally Posted by mjsocal
(Post 13852667)
That's the business area near lakeshore towers huh? I hope this wasn't someone late to work, speeding and not paying attention during morning rush hour. :(
Yeah, the rider. :( |
I read the article, and the driver did stick around. Not bad for a 20 year old kid. Speaks well of him and his honor.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
(Post 13852803)
I read the article, and the driver did stick around. Not bad for a 20 year old kid. Speaks well of him and his honor.
All that aside, I just want him alive. So hard for family to lose someone. It's heartbreaking. |
This was a brother-in-law of a co-worker. I regret to say that they were waiting for his family to show up so they could halt life support.
That's what we heard around the office. |
Some of the comments are saying he didn't make it. :(
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The comments say that he did not make it. Also that he was "talking on a cell phone or listening to music because he had a headset on" , didn't have a helmet and also ran through the red light.
28 is really young. Very sad. I know I've spaced out before thinking of something as I was riding my bike. Terrible. |
Damn it. :( :(
Sorry I get so emotional. |
Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
(Post 13852803)
I read the article, and the driver did stick around. Not bad for a 20 year old kid. Speaks well of him and his honor.
To me it's like saying somebody showed great restraint and honor by not punching his child when he wet the bed. |
My office overlooks that corner so I drove by the aftermath this morning, but after those involved were gone. It was a very bad accident, must have happed at a high speed. The roof of the car was dented and the windshield was shattered, we saw it get towed away at lunchtime.
I feel so bad for his family. :( And I've firmly resolved not to run yellows late which sometimes leave you in the intersection on red. Not that that's what happened but that's the closeset I get. |
Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13853223)
I know what you are saying with this comment but I think it's representative of the sad state of our morality in these times to actually say that somebody did the right thing by sticking around after another human being crashes through their windshield at 40mph and then falls to the ground motionless. The fact that most of the time the driver DOES leave the scene is so unreal to me.
To me it's like saying somebody showed great restraint and honor by not punching his child when he wet the bed. |
Very sad that he did not make it. I understand he has a young wife too.
May God give his family and friends succour and the fortitude to bear this loss. Be careful out there all. |
Why the heck is the status of his helmet so important to this story? If it was high speed, he could have worn all the helmets I've ever bought to no avail.
What a tragedy. |
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
(Post 13853745)
Why the heck is the status of his helmet so important to this story? If it was high speed, he could have worn all the helmets I've ever bought to no avail.
What a tragedy. I know when I got hit last August the ONE thing I recall vividly was my helmet snapping into the curb and pretty high speed. I know this because I actually laughed to my self right when it happened that my helmet really worked. I hate to think what would have happened if that was my head that thumped the curb. |
Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13854589)
Not necessarily. We don't know that. What if the main point of impact was his head and the windshield and a helmet could have significantly reduced the injuries sustained from that impact.
I know when I got hit last August the ONE thing I recall vividly was my helmet snapping into the curb and pretty high speed. I know this because I actually laughed to my self right when it happened that my helmet really worked. I hate to think what would have happened if that was my head that thumped the curb. |
Originally Posted by idoru2005
(Post 13854607)
I wonder if the driver was wearing his seatbelt...
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Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13854881)
I don't know anybody that doesn't wear a seatbelt anymore...that one is a no-brainer...
From the comments on the OC Register story, I just learned the rider was not a "roadie". An eyewitness says that the bike was a hybrid or mtb. Not saying that roadies are more responsible or more safe when it comes to riding. But one thing I have noticed about hybrid or mtb riders is that they are more likely to be doing things that are generally considered to be unsafe, like riding on sidewalks and riding on the wrong side of the street. They are more lackadaisical and lax about taking things cautiously. There are absolutely no details about the accident mentioned in the article, so we don't know if that's the case here. |
Originally Posted by idoru2005
(Post 13854973)
I was being facetious...
From the comments on the OC Register story, I just learned the rider was not a "roadie". An eyewitness says that the bike was a hybrid or mtb. Not saying that roadies are more responsible or more safe when it comes to riding. But one thing I have noticed about hybrid or mtb riders is that they are more likely to be doing things that are generally considered to be unsafe, like riding on sidewalks and riding on the wrong side of the street. They are more lackadaisical and lax about taking things cautiously. There are absolutely no details about the accident mentioned in the article, so we don't know if that's the case here. Based on the comments of witness and what I saw of the car and scene, I feel that he outright ran the red light because he was distracted or miscalculated when running a yellow. He was hit at speed, but my comment about high speed is probably misleading. It has hard enough to throw him into the air so that he landed on the roof of the car. I'm not sure at what speed that would happen. What a tragic accident. :( |
Originally Posted by Schwerelos
(Post 13855134)
Also from the comments he was Mormon and had done his mission which generally means riding around a lot on a bike because they can't drive while on their mission. We can't know that for sure what his experience level was, as you said, but he probably wasn't a total newbie.
Based on the comments of witness and what I saw of the car and scene, I feel that he outright ran the red light because he was distracted or miscalculated when running a yellow. He was hit at speed, but my comment about high speed is probably misleading. It has hard enough to throw him into the air so that he landed on the roof of the car. I'm not sure at what speed that would happen. What a tragic accident. :( |
Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13855338)
Incorrect.
You're right, sorry, I was confusing something a Mormon friend told me. |
Originally Posted by idoru2005
(Post 13854973)
An eyewitness says that the bike was a hybrid or mtb. Not saying that roadies are more responsible or more safe when it comes to riding. But one thing I have noticed about hybrid or mtb riders is that they are more likely to be doing things that are generally considered to be unsafe, like riding on sidewalks and riding on the wrong side of the street.
I don't mean this disrespectfully towards you. |
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
(Post 13853745)
Why the heck is the status of his helmet so important to this story? If it was high speed, he could have worn all the helmets I've ever bought to no avail.
What a tragedy.
Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13854589)
Not necessarily. We don't know that. What if the main point of impact was his head and the windshield and a helmet could have significantly reduced the injuries sustained from that impact.
I know when I got hit last August the ONE thing I recall vividly was my helmet snapping into the curb and pretty high speed. I know this because I actually laughed to my self right when it happened that my helmet really worked. I hate to think what would have happened if that was my head that thumped the curb.
Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13854881)
I don't know anybody that doesn't wear a seatbelt anymore...that one is a no-brainer...
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Originally Posted by Accordion
(Post 13854589)
I know when I got hit last August the ONE thing I recall vividly was my helmet snapping into the curb and pretty high speed. I know this because I actually laughed to my self right when it happened that my helmet really worked. I hate to think what would have happened if that was my head that thumped the curb.
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OK, I wasn't trying to start a helmet-no helmet debate or argument (really) but it seems odd that the status of his helmet was the only thing the story really covered. Lots of conflicting information floating around, it seems.
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