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Old 11-26-12, 10:43 AM
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Forum Ride - Mt Palomar

OK here we go again! This one is on a Sunday so some others can make it. I have listed a route but I am open to going down the East grade and back up or even starting at a different locaiton. What does everyone think? This is a steep grade so brign your climbing legs, it can also get cold at the top so bring the approiate clothes. Weather pending of course.

What: Mt Palomar; 40 miles; 6,000ft+ https://www.strava.com/runs/2960055
When: December 16th, 2012
Where: 777 Harrah's Rincon Way
Valley Center, CA 92082
Why: It is fun!
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Old 11-26-12, 11:26 AM
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I recommend changing the start to Harrah's Rincon, meeting in the overflow lot just west of the casino. If you start at Pala you have to ride a long distance on Hwy. 76. I've done it but don't recommend it.
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Old 11-26-12, 12:14 PM
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That is fine, last time I road it we started at Pauma Reservation Road / 76 which gave our legs some warm up time as well, just not the best of parking locaitons.
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I'm a pencilled-in maybe. And another vote for Harrah's instead of riding that stretch on the 76.
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Old 11-26-12, 06:02 PM
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I hate riding that section of the 76 from Pala, feel like I have to time trial it so I don't die. Count me in for the ride, I'll meet you at the Taco shop if you start at Pala. I might just start from my house near the base of Wolford in Esco. We'll see how cold it is that time of the month.
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Old 11-26-12, 06:21 PM
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So we will say Harrash Rincon, park anywhere along the street in their parking lot?
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Originally Posted by Lesper4 View Post
So we will say Harrash Rincon, park anywhere along the street in their parking lot?
Park near the street in the overflow lot just west of the hotel. There's a stop light at the main entrance that goes to the front door. There's another stop light about 1/2 block west. Turn in there and make an immediate left into the lot. It's near the electronic sign.
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Old 11-28-12, 03:46 PM
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
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Old 11-28-12, 07:49 PM
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Harrah's to the Observatory is only 18.6 miles one way. Are there any plans to add some more miles?
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Old 11-28-12, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cdp8 View Post
Harrah's to the Observatory is only 18.6 miles one way. Are there any plans to add some more miles?
Yes, the group I'm bringing(4) plan on making it a "Pie" ride. (70 Miles) apple boysenberry with ice cream.

Additional features: descend East Grade, Lake Henshaw, Mesa Grande, Julian Pie Company, back to Henshaw, down South Grade. No Observatory though, just junk miles that get in the way of pie.
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I don't want to be overly optimistic, but I'll say "IN". Of course, the weather must be up to my high standards, which is not very likely in December. What start time are you planning on? If you want my humble opinion - 9:00 AM will be perfect.
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Originally Posted by cdp8 View Post
Harrah's to the Observatory is only 18.6 miles one way. Are there any plans to add some more miles?
Spoken like a true Palomar virgin.

Satellite view is one of the great benefits of the Information Age, but it doesn't show a route's warts... petty little minutiae like elevation gain or concertina wire.

If a mere 37 miles isn't enough suffering to warrant a drive, another great starting point is the dog park at the Escondido Humane Society, (but be sure to come back up Cole Grade Road as recommended by my linked route above, which is still tough as hell after climbing Palomar, but at least you aren't lumbering slowly up a steep, rough, narrow road populated primarily by deadly casino buses that are at least 18 feet wide. It's a terrific ride.

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Old 11-29-12, 03:42 AM
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Spoken like a true Palomar virgin.
Well, the question is, what's the pace that the group is going to take?

If it's balls to the wall, first-man-to-the-top, then 36 miles and 5600 feet later everyone will be thoroughly exhausted and happy to get to their cars.

If people bring their triples and take their time, they will have enough juice left for the pie ride.
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Originally Posted by JimmyNH View Post
I don't want to be overly optimistic, but I'll say "IN". Of course, the weather must be up to my high standards, which is not very likely in December. What start time are you planning on? If you want my humble opinion - 9:00 AM will be perfect.
I'll pencil this in. Good thing its on a Sunday, which is generally my day to ride on the weekends. Maybe we can carpool?
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
Spoken like a true Palomar virgin.
Nope. Been there done that. Now, 70 miles with pie involved, that's got my attention!
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70 miles sounds great but I dont follow you after Lake Henshaw? That sounds like a great route for the group and that way anyone who wants less miles can turned around right away or go the the observertory and back. My only complaint is we dont get to do the main grade descent. Do you have a link of the route?

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Yes, the group I'm bringing(4) plan on making it a "Pie" ride. (70 Miles) apple boysenberry with ice cream.

Additional features: descend East Grade, Lake Henshaw, Mesa Grande, Julian Pie Company, back to Henshaw, down South Grade. No Observatory though, just junk miles that get in the way of pie.

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Well, the question is, what's the pace that the group is going to take?

If it's balls to the wall, first-man-to-the-top, then 36 miles and 5600 feet later everyone will be thoroughly exhausted and happy to get to their cars.

If people bring their triples and take their time, they will have enough juice left for the pie ride.
I'm the slowest guy in my group and do it between 1'14"(if that's all I'm doing) and 1'26"(if I'm getting pie) depending on fitness and feel. We re-group at the top and hang out for a bit(20-30min) then pretty much chill to Pie. Except Mesa Grande, There is no way to "chill" up that. But we re-group at the top.

I'm bringing a kid that is capable of doing it in 57 minutes. If he can wait for me all the time., I can wait for you.
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The pace will be the same as the last group ride a few weeks ago. We go out our own pace climbing and regroup at specific locaitons, possibly the top of the east grade, getting pie and then at the cars. We had all ages, sizes and speeds going up to Dawsons saddle. Although last time I did this ride (with socalbikeforum) they seemed to be all racers, left me in the dust. Took me 2 hours to ride the whole of the east grade.
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I'm the slowest guy in my group and do it between 1'14"(if that's all I'm doing) and 1'26"(if I'm getting pie) depending on fitness and feel. We re-group at the top and hang out for a bit(20-30min) then pretty much chill to Pie. Except Mesa Grande, There is no way to "chill" up that. But we re-group at the top.

I'm bringing a kid that is capable of doing it in 57 minutes. If he can wait for me all the time., I can wait for you.
I'm out then.

Though I want to see a kid that is capable of doing it in 57 minutes. On Strava, South grade was only climbed under 1 hour by three people, and one of them was Chris Horner.
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LOL I'm about 1hr 45-50 up the front climb, that is MY pace. I know my way around so I won't feel bad if the fast guys want to go....I just want to ride my bike.
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Tell skippy to come jeff.
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Tell skippy to come jeff.
Does he still have a road bike?
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Old 11-29-12, 04:42 PM
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LOL I'm about 1hr 45-50 up the front climb,
Bring the Nishiki.
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yah that dude has more bikes then he knows what to do with but he's hard to get out there and ride them. I'll see what he says.

Sorry GP...I shall never take the Nishiki singlespeed on a pie ride EVER...that was a hard day.
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