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Old 04-21-13, 03:48 PM
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Cyclist killed in Carlsbad

So far very little information is available, but it is reported that the incident happened at 7:40 am in the bike lane on northbound El Camino Real north of La Costa.
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Old 04-21-13, 04:14 PM
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Oof. RIP.
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Old 04-21-13, 06:25 PM
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Naturally, there are already some idiots commenting about how the rider probably was riding two abreast in the bike line, implying that he/she deserved to die.
Doesn't seem to be any more news than what's below, so far.


From 10 News -
https://www.10news.com/news/bicyclist...lsbad-04212013
Last Updated: 3 hours ago
CARLSBAD, Calif. - A bicyclist was struck and killed by a vehicle Sunday while riding in Carlsbad, police said.
The bicyclist was struck by a northbound vehicle while headed north in the bike lane on El Camino Real north of La Costa with a fellow rider, according to the Carlsbad Police Department. Several people called 911 at about 7:40 a.m. to report the crash, police said.
The bicyclist who was struck sustained a head injury and was unconscious, police said. Police and fire personnel responded, but the bicyclist died at the scene.
The bicyclist's name was withheld pending family notification, police said.
The Carlsbad Police Traffic Division has opened an investigation into the fatal crash, police said.
Carlsbad police said the driver had not been cited or arrested, but the crash remained under investigation.

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Old 04-21-13, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaco View Post
Naturally, there are already some idiots commenting about how the rider probably was riding two abreast in the bike line, implying that he/she deserved to die. Doesn't seem to be any more news than what's below, so far.
I gave up reading viewer comments on San Diego "newsites" regarding bicycle accidents. Its always the same responses: They should pay taxes, they ride outside the bike lane, They dress funny and ITS ALWAYS THE RIDERS FAULT and they DESERVE it. This region is the most screwed up when it comes to road relations. I believe the only reason they post these stories are that they are guaranteed hits for their advertisers. Heaven forbid somebody is inconvenienced by having to pay attention or even follow the laws regarding cyclists. Yea some cyclists give riding a bad name but so do cagers. I get so mad reading the responses. Im digressing... To maintain my sanity, I like to think that the poster is some 300lb fat f#ck, scarfing down a sausage McMuffin behind the keyboard as they type because his/or her only work out is lifting their fat ass off the couch to walk to the refrigerator and back to the crapper to complete their miserable circle of life - and types out of guilt rather than faulty logic. Damn now Im all fired up.... Mental Note..no more coffee after 7:00pm

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Old 04-22-13, 09:49 AM
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That's just down the street from where I live and I'm not surprised. Cell Camino Real is not my favorite place to ride--plenty of close calls, and it's happened twice that I caught up with the offending motorists at a stoplight immediately after, screaming my head off, bird-flipping, loogie-spitting in a adrenaline-fueled rage, and both drivers were too distracted by their cellphones to even notice or hear me.
I'd like to hear more about this, and that they subpoena the driver's cell records to see if they were using a phone when it happened. And if the victim was inside the bike lane, I hope the driver gets nailed for vehicular manslaughter.
I don't condone the comments, but I understand motorists being frustrated with the way some of us ride--I see almost as much bad behavior on our side as I do on theirs.
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Old 04-22-13, 02:19 PM
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His name was Eric Ringdahl -- more info here. Witnesses said there was good visibility, and not a lot of traffic. The car and the bicyclists were all northbound.

Personally, I think comparing bicyclists' ignoring the law (and there is NO evidence whatsoever that Mr. Ringdahl broke any law, especially since he was in the bike lane) and motorists' ignoring the law is a false equivalency -- for 2 main reasons: first, in car vs. bicycle, car always wins. 19 bicyclists have been killed in SoCal so far this year by cars. How many drivers have been killed by bicyclists? 0. Obviously, I'm not suggesting "evening up the score". I'm just saying that the results of a motorist breaking the law can be fatal to a bicyclist, while the results of a bicyclist breaking the law is generally no more than irritation to a motorist.

Second, when bicyclists ignore a law, everyone sees it. When a motorist breaks the law, it's either hidden or done so often no one cares. In some cases, e.g. the setting of new speed limits, it's actually motorists breaking the law that creates the boundaries for a new speed limit. On the freeways, I would estimate 85% of drivers break the speed limits, probably about the same as the number of bicyclists who run stop signs. One thing I don't generally see bicyclists do, though, is talk on their cell phones while they're cycling or cycle drunk, which far too many drivers do.
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Old 04-22-13, 08:10 PM
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How terrible for the cyclist's family. The latest report is that the driver is a nurse who was coming off of a long shift and fell asleep at the wheel.
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RIP Cyclist

Prayers for all of those involved

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Old 04-22-13, 09:20 PM
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Saw this at 8:30am as I was driving south on El Camino Real. I ride that road all the time, very straight road, wide lanes-driver definitely not pay attention.

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Old 04-23-13, 11:42 AM
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<Deep sigh>

My condolences to Eric Ringdahl's family and friends.
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Old 04-23-13, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CbadRider View Post
How terrible for the cyclist's family. The latest report is that the driver is a nurse who was coming off of a long shift and fell asleep at the wheel.
In that case, may the family members get a shyster attack-dog and go after the hospital or clinic who are responsible for this nurse's driving in that state.

[Edit]: And IMO the offending driver's cellphone records still deserve checking.

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Old 04-26-13, 01:22 PM
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"he poster is some 300lb fat f#ck, scarfing down a sausage McMuffin behind the keyboard as they type because his/or her only work out is lifting their fat ass off the couch to walk to the refrigerator and back to the crapper to complete their miserable circle of life - and types out of guilt rather than faulty logic."

Thought this was so good it deserves re-posting.
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Old 05-01-13, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
In that case, may the family members get a shyster attack-dog and go after the hospital or clinic who are responsible for this nurse's driving in that state.

[Edit]: And IMO the offending driver's cellphone records still deserve checking.
So are you suggesting that all hospitals close between the hours of 5:00PM and 9:00AM?
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So are you suggesting that all hospitals close between the hours of 5:00PM and 9:00AM?
Yes, I can see how you reached that conclusion instead of "hire an adequate number of nurses"
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Originally Posted by lesiz View Post
"he poster is some 300lb fat f#ck, scarfing down a sausage McMuffin behind the keyboard as they type because his/or her only work out is lifting their fat ass off the couch to walk to the refrigerator and back to the crapper to complete their miserable circle of life - and types out of guilt rather than faulty logic."

Thought this was so good it deserves re-posting.
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In that case, may the family members get a shyster attack-dog and go after the hospital or clinic who are responsible for this nurse's driving in that state.

[Edit]: And IMO the offending driver's cellphone records still deserve checking.
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Condolences to Eric Ringdahl's family and friends...
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The report that the woman was a nurse and fell asleep after a long shift is correct. It's true she veered into the bike lane and there was little traffic.

Texting, being under the influence, being distracted, being too tired to drive, driving above the speed limit or not driving according to the conditions of the road...all dangerous and avoidable.

I think someone in a news story called the driver a victim. I'm sure she feels bad, but she is not a victim. People throw that word around so loosely. How insulting to the family of the dead cyclist. He is the victim in this case.
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Originally Posted by mjsocal View Post
I think someone in a news story called the driver a victim. I'm sure she feels bad, but she is not a victim. People throw that word around so loosely. How insulting to the family of the dead cyclist. He is the victim in this case.
Probably her defense attorney. But of whom is she a victim? That's exactly why I said I hope Eric Ringdahl's family sic a bloodythirsty legal attack dog on the hospital.

I still hope the investigator's check the nurse's cell records. I've had so many close calls, and especially on that very stretch of El Camino Real, and seen so many motorists (I'd put it conservatively at 1/3 of them) talking or texting.
I'd honestly prefer 1/3 of the driving population were legally drunk than looking down at their phone.
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