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Old 08-11-13, 09:21 PM
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PSA: 39 above Crystal Lake is freshly swept

Rode up to Dawson Saddle today and the closed off portion of the 39 was freshly swept. Really clean, so clean I managed nearly 28mph average for the whole way down, almost 13mph faster than I went when it hadn't been swept.

So, go, enjoy it while you can!

Also Angels Crest was freshly chip-sealed between 39 and the Saddle. Be prepared for a shaky ride down (unless of course you're on a nice Roubaix ). The extra grip in the corners was appreciated.
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Old 08-12-13, 11:45 AM
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I take it you were coming from the 2?

This is good news! I'm planning on going up the 39 later this month.
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We rode up to Crystal lake on Saturday from San Dimas. What a Great Climb!! The store owner at Crystal lake needs our support. It's great knowing you can get water and supplies on a hot day. Please give him your business, he cooks really good food and has great brownies.
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Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
I take it you were coming from the 2?
I did GMR->EastFork->39->Crystal Lake->Angels Crest->Dawson Saddle and back.

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The store owner at Crystal lake needs our support. It's great knowing you can get water and supplies on a hot day. Please give him your business, he cooks really good food and has great brownies.
The Frito Pie is what everybody should be buying up there. Loaded with salt and fat, and delicious. It's half the reason I even do this bike ride

Anyway, yeah, that guy's cafe is the only thing that makes the ride doable IMO. Glad he's up there.
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Yeah, I was amazed and grateful that it was clean when I rode down there yesterday afternoon. I also got about a mile lift from a pilot car as Caltrans was laying out new chip-seal from Upper Big Tujunga on down. Not exactly smooth. Apparently they started from Wrightwood and are going to complete all of Hwy 2.
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Old 08-13-13, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jmX View Post
I did GMR->EastFork->39->Crystal Lake->Angels Crest->Dawson Saddle and back.



The Frito Pie is what everybody should be buying up there. Loaded with salt and fat, and delicious. It's half the reason I even do this bike ride

Anyway, yeah, that guy's cafe is the only thing that makes the ride doable IMO. Glad he's up there.
Nice!
Ugh, I forgot. Where is Dawson's Saddlle? Is that near Newcomb's Ranch or Redbox? Or is that the other way?
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Old 08-14-13, 02:59 AM
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was planning on coming up from san diego really early on friday to hit the santa monica mountains and the multiplicity of climbs there but now i'm reconsidering doing 39/2
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Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
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Ugh, I forgot. Where is Dawson's Saddlle? Is that near Newcomb's Ranch or Redbox? Or is that the other way?
It's the "other way" which is to say yes, above Newcombs, above Cloudburst Summit, beyond the tunnels, past the entrance to Hwy 39 . . . I think 5 or 6 miles from the Hwy 39 barricade to Dawson Saddle summit.

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Old 08-14-13, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mansram01 View Post
Yeah, I was amazed and grateful that it was clean when I rode down there yesterday afternoon. I also got about a mile lift from a pilot car as Caltrans was laying out new chip-seal from Upper Big Tujunga on down. Not exactly smooth. Apparently they started from Wrightwood and are going to complete all of Hwy 2.
Cal Trans has ruined Angeles Crest with the chip seal. Just when you think the state can't do any worse they pull this. Shoulder un rideable, and pity the poor cyclist who goes down on that pavement. Scared for life.
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Cal Trans has ruined Angeles Crest with the chip seal. Just when you think the state can't do any worse they pull this. Shoulder un rideable, and pity the poor cyclist who goes down on that pavement. Scared for life.
Yeah, I can't stand chip seal. I was riding in Utah two days prior and they were doing the same exact thing with chip seal and pilot cars. Nearly ruined my wheels on one descent. Although they seemed to smooth it out much better than we do here. And you're absolutely right about the "rough" shoulder now.
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Indeed the shoulder of the 2 seemed unridable at times due to debris, but that'll clear out eventually. The chipseal really wasn't that bad on my Roubaix. There's a buzz to it, but not much more.
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Indeed the shoulder of the 2 seemed unridable at times due to debris, but that'll clear out eventually. The chipseal really wasn't that bad on my Roubaix. There's a buzz to it, but not much more.
Maybe so but did you notice while climbing that when you pulled on to the smooth pavement on the turn outs your speed went up .7mph with the same effort?
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Maybe so but did you notice while climbing that when you pulled on to the smooth pavement on the turn outs your speed went up .7mph with the same effort?
No, but Strava says I was 40 seconds faster than in June,pre-chip seal, and I only put out 3 watts more (I have a power meter). I've weighed 162lbs all summer, so I'd say the chipseal didn't do much harm to my climbing speed. Rolling resistance at 9mph is a pretty small piece of the pie when you're hauling up 180lbs of meat and carbon fiber up a 6% incline.
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Maybe so but did you notice while climbing that when you pulled on to the smooth pavement on the turn outs your speed went up .7mph with the same effort?
This I did notice and I took advantage of it whenever I could.

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It's the "other way" which is to say yes, above Newcombs, above Cloudburst Summit, beyond the tunnels, past the entrance to Hwy 39 . . . I think 5 or 6 miles from the Hwy 39 barricade to Dawson Saddle summit.

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Think I want to try this next. GMR->EastFork->39->Crystal Lake->Angels Crest->Dawson Saddle and back. My ride earlier this week was from La Canada->Angeles Crest->Cloudburst->Crystal Lake->39->Encanto

How much elevation is it from GMR to Dawson & back? 7k?
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Originally Posted by Mansram01 View Post
GMR->EastFork->39->Crystal Lake->Angels Crest->Dawson Saddle and back. My ride earlier this week was from La Canada->Angeles Crest->Cloudburst->Crystal Lake->39->Encanto
How much elevation is it from GMR to Dawson & back? 7k?
Here is a ride I did to Dawson Saddle, so hopefully a look at the elevation chart will tell you what you want to know.

https://connect.garmin.com/activity/304214731

This one had an East Fork, Little GMR/Big GMR finish but it sounds like you want to leave that off . . .

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Originally Posted by Mansram01 View Post
This I did notice and I took advantage of it whenever I could.


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Think I want to try this next. GMR->EastFork->39->Crystal Lake->Angels Crest->Dawson Saddle and back. My ride earlier this week was from La Canada->Angeles Crest->Cloudburst->Crystal Lake->39->Encanto

How much elevation is it from GMR to Dawson & back? 7k?
Sounds like the ride I described earlier in this thread, the one I did this Sunday. Here's the full stats on it:
https://www.strava.com/activities/74010115
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Sounds like the ride I described earlier in this thread, the one I did this Sunday. Here's the full stats on it:
https://www.strava.com/activities/74010115
Dang, now that's a lot of climbing! Gonna have to give it a shot. Definitely will need to refuel at Crystal Lake.
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Great climbs!
How do you prepare for this? Two bottles+1 on the jersey? Front rack with provisions? Camelbak?
I'm used to taking three bottles to Wilson but there are water faucets at Redbox and Tujunga/ACH junction, beyond that, and it looks like the boondoggies.
Considering getting a Camelbak for 39/2 adventures, roadie aesthetics be damned.
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