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Old 11-11-14, 03:47 PM
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latest Bolsa Chica Wetlands insanity

Bolsa Chica Wetlands (BCWL) Insanity
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Recent flasher arrest__
LAPD officer from H.B. accused of attempting lewd act with 12-year-old girl - HB Independent

Brightwater bird kill__
The Glass Wall
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Many of you have heard about at least one of the above conflicts that happened near or in the BCWL.

Riders going NW on PCH, or East from PCH on Warner may have noticed carpets of crushed glass that were neatly spread across the shoulder and bike lanes. I personally encountered at least five of these glass debris fields - two on PCH and three on Warner starting in July 2013 out into Nov 2013, when the extensive road-work construction started.

What does all of the above have to do with cycling?

So we have 3 different millieu all centered on BCWL. The Cops got involved and arrested the Flasher once he attacked a child. I never heard about any of it until the arrest. Perhaps the residents of Brightwater were getting very upset and were willing to make life difficult for outsiders using the trail along the Glass Wall.

Perhaps the same hot-headed residents may have already taken action against the Bird Sympathisers by trying to make it difficult for them to access the Wetlands and the Glass Wall trail, thus the glass debris. The Bird Kill Phenom goes back to 2007, shortly after the wall was installed.

I don't think that Roadies as a group were targetted with the debris fields since the Brightwater folks may have a siege mentality and explored many strategies to discourage outsiders.

The Police are asking for info from the public regarding the Flasher.

Nobody but Roadies seem to care about all the glass in the street. I thought about talking to the Police and raising the possiblity about a nexus to all the events. The Police simply want to prosecute the Flasher and won't see militancy among Brightwater residents as an important issue.

p.s. I left out flipper getting stranded inside the BCWL. The news media had a field day.

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Old 11-12-14, 03:19 PM
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Thanks for the insight. Warner used to be my access to PCH. It’s becoming more difficult recently. I found similar glass debris field near Edinger and Saybrook just last week as well. I totaled two Schwalbe One Road tubeless tires in a month.
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Old 11-12-14, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hsuehhwa View Post
Thanks for the insight. Warner used to be my access to PCH. It’s becoming more difficult recently. I found similar glass debris field near Edinger and Saybrook just last week as well. I totaled two Schwalbe One Road tubeless tires in a month.
You never know when you start comparing notes what strange things can come to light.

Here's the scale of the glass fields I am talking about: its as if the perpetrator went down to the recycling station at Garfield & GW, and loaded two 55 gallon barrels of crushed glass. Then poured the barrels into a hopper, like the kind used by American Asphalt to spread it onto the road. Its that scale of quantity and weight, and may require a fork lift, or a small bobcat. If all I saw were 10 or less broken bottles this thread is not here.

The Cops can use google to research this Flasher case, like I did a year ago when I found out about the Brightwater Glass wall. If they happen to get a hit here, then let me add some more tips for research.

Dear HB Detectives,
As you consider evidence in the BCWL Flasher Case, please look into the suspect's possible relationships with the HOA and Board of Directors (especially recently elected members of the board) that governs the Brightwater Subdivision. Consider that big money may be involved and he was trying to intimidate certain residents of the project.

IOW, he may not be a simple pervert but part of a large conspiracy to control the BofD or grab foreclosures, or whatever.
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OC can be an extremely weird place!
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Old 11-16-14, 07:40 AM
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OC can be an extremely weird place!
Its not the place, it just happens to be the people in any place.
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Old 01-29-16, 07:07 PM
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Former LAPD Cop convicted and sentenced.
Former LAPD cop sentenced to year in jail for lewd acts, indecent exposure - The Orange County Register

Maybe the heat around the Wetlands is off, now that they have suspect in custody.
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That's just nuts. Can't even imagine how much glass that would've been. Do you know if it's been cleaned up?

Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
You never know when you start comparing notes what strange things can come to light.

Here's the scale of the glass fields I am talking about: its as if the perpetrator went down to the recycling station at Garfield & GW, and loaded two 55 gallon barrels of crushed glass. Then poured the barrels into a hopper, like the kind used by American Asphalt to spread it onto the road. Its that scale of quantity and weight, and may require a fork lift, or a small bobcat. If all I saw were 10 or less broken bottles this thread is not here.

The Cops can use google to research this Flasher case, like I did a year ago when I found out about the Brightwater Glass wall. If they happen to get a hit here, then let me add some more tips for research.

Dear HB Detectives,
As you consider evidence in the BCWL Flasher Case, please look into the suspect's possible relationships with the HOA and Board of Directors (especially recently elected members of the board) that governs the Brightwater Subdivision. Consider that big money may be involved and he was trying to intimidate certain residents of the project.

IOW, he may not be a simple pervert but part of a large conspiracy to control the BofD or grab foreclosures, or whatever.
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Do you know if it's been cleaned up?

There were at least 6-8 industrial sized spills, over an 18 month period. I don't remember any of them getting cleaned up beyond normal circumstances, like bi-monthly street sweeping (PCH), or from rain run-off. At no time did the City show concern, or acknowledge the problem, or ever send out a special cleanup crew.

There was a rumour that American Asphalt was mixing crushed glass in-place during their huge project on Warner, and then again on PCH (Spring 2015). I've seen their mixing rigs and they put down drop clothes to catch any stray pebble of gravel that falls on the street.

Can anyone confirm that road asphalt is not made this way in the HB area? So any claim that large glass spills are attributed to the paving can be rejected.
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Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
Do you know if it's been cleaned up?

There were at least 6-8 industrial sized spills, over an 18 month period. I don't remember any of them getting cleaned up beyond normal circumstances, like bi-monthly street sweeping (PCH), or from rain run-off. At no time did the City show concern, or acknowledge the problem, or ever send out a special cleanup crew.

There was a rumour that American Asphalt was mixing crushed glass in-place during their huge project on Warner, and then again on PCH (Spring 2015). I've seen their mixing rigs and they put down drop clothes to catch any stray pebble of gravel that falls on the street.

Can anyone confirm that road asphalt is not made this way in the HB area? So any claim that large glass spills are attributed to the paving can be rejected.
There's no 'free' glass used in asphalt paving. Some might be used in the asphalt mix as a 'recycling' component, but it would be put in at the blending facility where the amount and blending could be better controlled, so no 'free' glass at a job site. The probably also used the old roadbed they tore up in the mix at the jobsite. As for the plastic tarps, they were most likely put down to catch spilled materials so it would not run off during rain events into the wetlands or onto the beach. "Stormwater pollution control" is required at almost all construction sites these days, and there are heavy fines for polluting waterways.

Question for you marquhar: What connection does the glass wall at the Brightwater development have with glass on PCH? I just don't see it. The glass wall is on the other side of the wetlands from PCH, quite a ways away by road, and no real reason a bicyclist (or group of bicyclists) would travel through Brightwater, so I really see no connection between the two. The wall and the hiking trail were built before the houses were constructed, so new home buyers knew they were there before plunking down the $$$ for a home. And those homes backing up to the wall have great views that command a premium price.

As for the LAPD officer caught in a lewd act with a minor, that's just a coincidence that it happened at the Wetlands.

One more thing: That's on PCH, so its a CalTrans project, not a City of Huntington Beach project.

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One more thing: I'll bet all that glass came from some cut-rate glass/glazing contractor doing a big multi-day job in the Seacliff or Sunset Beach areas who didn't secure his loads properly (either new glass or old glass (s)he removed). There's a lot of remodeling going on in those two areas, and most of it is re-building big houses into bigger houses with lots of custom features like big windows. I'd like to know who that was . . . so I could cross them off my list for any future glass needs!
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Marquhar, my friend, no offense but me thinks your paranoid! I'm on that stretch of Warner/PCH north and south at least 3 days weekly twice a day....I have seen no glass, no flats...nothing.
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