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Old 01-26-15, 01:26 PM
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Visiting SoCal, maybe ride with me?

well, it's -16 degrees here in Toronto right now. terrible. i know. i rode to work this morning and my eyelashes were crystallizing!

I am coming to Santa Ana February 15-23 to basically just get out of the cold, and to ride my bike of course. I'm mapped a few rides that i'd like to do, but also just seeing if anyone is around (bike clubs do week day rides?) to do any riding with!

I'm staying at my cousin's, who lives near the zoo, but am looking at riding both north and south (maybe to Palos Verdes, oceanside, etc). I'd like to do Santa Ana --> San Diego one day as well and amtrak it back. It's reasonably safe, right?

I'm a 28 year old girl, but I can keep around 16-19 mph for extended periods, and can hack rides 90+miles in length if need be. Also very much open to shorter rides if it means not spending the whole time riding alone.

any route recommendations/rides/clubs/friends would be super helpful.

thanks!
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I work one mile from the Santa Ana Zoo. As for weekday club rides, there are several in the AM but I've found those are more suited for the older/retired folks. There are also several weekday AM "training" rides at 20-25 mph and PM "training rides" that involve riding laps around an office park or undeveloped land.

A Road Bike 4 U in Irvine does a PM ride at 6 pm on Wednesday that has a nice route.

If you want to do a weekday night ride with a bit of climbing (lights required), shoot me a PM.
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Both the Orange County Wheelmen and the Bicycle Club of Irvine have rides most days of the week as well as Saturdays and Sundays.

The Orange County Wheelmen (OCW)

BCI - Bicycle Club of Irvine

Also Monday the 16th is Presidents Day here, a holiday for some, so one or both of these clubs might have holiday rides that day.

Riding to San Diego and taking the train back is pretty safe. Worst part is making it thru some of the traffic in San Diego til you get down near the harbor. You do have to get through the Marine base Camp Pendleton. Cyclists can usually ride through it, have to show ID (drivers license typically) to the guard. Don't know if there are different rules for non-US riders and sometimes they do not permit it due to other base activities. If you can't go thru the base you can ride on Interstate 5 between Las Pulgas and Oceanside.

Hope you enjoy your visit. I'm in the Bicycle Club of Irvine and typically ride with the club on weekends.
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The RB4U Wednesday evening ride is a good group ride (25-30 miles) - though I haven't been able to make it out for a long time... A Road Bike 4U - Award Winning Irvine Bike Shop in Orange County, California
If you want to do some climbing make sure you do Glendora Mountain Road (GMR) to Mt. Baldy. You could ride it from Santa Ana (probably 90 miles roundtrip) but there will be lots of "junk miles" getting to and from the mountain. Not sure of any regular group rides up the mountain tho.
I would also be sure to do at least one ride in the Santa Monica Mountains. Bike Effect in Santa Monica has weekday and weekend rides that are worth looking into
Bike Effect (or better yet on Facebook) The rides are usually led by Melina Bernecker - google her for an idea of how good the workouts will be!
Finally, I have a friend who is training for an Ironman and her daily rides are fast paced 40-45 miles of mostly flats along the coast. She is always happy to have company, although M-F it is usually a 4:00 a.m. clip in!
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Originally Posted by jimxyz
If you want to do some climbing make sure you do Glendora Mountain Road (GMR) to Mt. Baldy.
If you have any reason to extend your stay, feel free to join the Clyde/Athena GMR ride on March 1. Right now, it looks like about 15 people coming out for it. Many first-timers. We may be slow, but we have fun!
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
If you have any reason to extend your stay, feel free to join the Clyde/Athena GMR ride on March 1. Right now, it looks like about 15 people coming out for it. Many first-timers. We may be slow, but we have fun!
Totally agree; the Glendora Mountain Road / Glendora Ridge Road ride is one not to be missed. One of the best cycling roads ever.

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Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR
Totally agree; the Glendora Mountain Road / Glendora Ridge Road ride is one not to be missed. One of the best cycling roads ever.

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When I was a Jr racer back in NYC, I used to see the old Specialized catalogs and they would be riding around Palo Alto and stuff. And Bicycling magazine had pictures of PCH and mountains nearby. I said to myself "one day I'm gonna leave this cold ass town and move somewhere warm". Not too long ago, I was descending down GMR and I said "oh man, I actually remember dreaming about this!". The switchbacks, the air, the view, you CANNOT miss riding GMR or HWY 39 or Angeles Crest if you are here.
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we have a group here called "butts on bikes". Very friendly folks and no drop rides. something going on almost every day. about 50/50 men and women. Only issue for you is we are headquarterdd in Chino/Chino hills Not too far if you have a car. We have several folks who come from Orange county to ride our rides. https://www.meetup.com/ButtsOnBikes-InlandEmpire/. take a look at the website and calandar. Janet Berg is the organizer. I would suggest "C" level rides.

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If you want to visit a cool, independent (not a chain of stores) bike shop while you're here, stop by The Path in Old Town Tustin. Just head east on Chestnut (the street the zoo is on) it becomes Main St once east of the 5 fwy.. Hang a left on B Street. Shop is at First St. and B Street. Probably only a mile or two from where you're staying. Nice folks there. Oh, btw--great coffee houses and restaurants in Old Town Tustin, too.
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do you have a route mapped? would you suggest climbing up mt.baldy and down Glendora ridge, or vice versa?
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I was a member of the Bicycle Club of Irvine for 7 years. A great group of riders. There are three rides at 9 am both Saturday and Sunday. Typically a 12, 27 and 38 mile ride. I have ridden with OCW a few times they are more competitive, faster and ride further before a coffee stop. Both great clubs.
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[MENTION=141641]TrippleB[/MENTION]utted ya i realize these are a "must" do. any recommendations? reasonably safe to ride alone? (probably end up doing it on a week day)

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GMR is very safe on weekdays; just make sure you have tools, flat repair stuff, and plenty of water.

Glendora Ridge Road is not the descent--it's still part of the climb. The full climb is 22 miles, GMR + GRR to Baldy Village. At that point you have the choice to descend via Baldy Road, but I don't recommend that at all--bad surface, narrow lanes, fast traffic. I always return via GRR + GMR, which gives you a few little climbs on the way back to warm you up. There's food and drink available at the village,too.

I'll be out of town then or else I'd join you!
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+1 on the Butts on Bikes Group on Meetup though I disagree you looking for C rides, you sound like solid B or borderline A rider and they are good about sticking together. Although the C riders groups are more about cruising and seeing the sights than jamming from Point A to Point B so maybe RISKDR1 has a point!

I've done GMR but you have to like climbing as it's a solid climb from beginning to the top! If you don't like climbing you probably won't like it. I've found bikers either like climbing a lot or they don't, not much grey area in between. I'm amazed at how quiet that road generally is even on Saturdays.

The OC to San Diego is a must do, awesome ride down the coast. It's busy and a bit dangerous but I prefer going down PCH through Laguna Beach.

If you want to do Palos Verdes, I've often ridden from San Pedro up to Santa Monica and back, another awesome ride. Slow-ish on the bike paths from Redondo to Santa Monica but looking at the ocean the whole way is unbeatable.

Another awesome beachy ride is from Long Beach south as far as you want to go, then turn around. It's close to 100 miles round trip from Long Beach to San Clemente and back.

A great ride just east of where you'll be staying is any ride that includes Santiago Canyon and Cooks Corner (a biker hangout but safe). Search RWGPS.com for rides with those keywords and you'll likely find many.

A guy close to where you'll be staying, look up Roberts Cycling Adventures also on Meetup, a good friend of mine, older gentleman, retired, been riding in OC for 30+ years knows it like the back of his hand. Very gentlemanly and safe for a young woman like you. Mostly does advanced beginner to intermediate rides, 40-ish miles rolling 16-19 mph. Tell him what you want to do, perhaps he'll tailor a ride for you and invite some awesome people to ride along. That's the weekend right after the major Palm Springs ride so they'll be in good shape for anything you want to do.

Speaking of Meetup, there are a lot of groups in the SoCal area (some exclusively women), search for bicycling within 50 miles of Santa Ana and take a look at what rides they are doing, if something looks interesting pop in and join them. I've found most groups to be really friendly and accommodating. If you don't see a ride but the group looks like fun, message the organizer and tell them you'll be in the area, what ride you'd like to do and ask them to accommodate you, most are looking for an excuse to do a particular ride.

Enjoy your stay.
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Originally Posted by triplebutted
When I was a Jr racer back in NYC, I used to see the old Specialized catalogs and they would be riding around Palo Alto and stuff. And Bicycling magazine had pictures of PCH and mountains nearby. I said to myself "one day I'm gonna leave this cold ass town and move somewhere warm". Not too long ago, I was descending down GMR and I said "oh man, I actually remember dreaming about this!". The switchbacks, the air, the view, you CANNOT miss riding GMR or HWY 39 or Angeles Crest if you are here.
The air, as in smog? haha
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Originally Posted by Elvo
I work one mile from the Santa Ana Zoo. As for weekday club rides, there are several in the AM but I've found those are more suited for the older/retired folks. There are also several weekday AM "training" rides at 20-25 mph and PM "training rides" that involve riding laps around an office park or undeveloped land.

A Road Bike 4 U in Irvine does a PM ride at 6 pm on Wednesday that has a nice route.

If you want to do a weekday night ride with a bit of climbing (lights required), shoot me a PM.

thanks for the advice, closer to the time, i might take you up on that pm ride! (i tried to send you a PM, but apparently i'm too "new" to be able to do that at this point.)
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Originally Posted by pb_toronto
do you have a route mapped? would you suggest climbing up mt.baldy and down Glendora ridge, or vice versa?
I would start in Glendora and ride up GMR to GRR to Baldy and then turn around and go back the way you came. It is worth the effort. Most folks park on Glendora Mountain Road near Sierra Madre and ride from there.
I usually park at Starbucks in the town and get about 15 mins of warm up before the climb starts. This is a typical route:
https://www.strava.com/activities/145143244
It is safe to ride alone on weekdays - just be aware that there are no water stops until you get to Baldy. This time of year I doubt you'll need more than 2 bottles to get you there. If you ride during the week, just make sure you start early enough to finish while it is light out. I had to descend once in the dark and got a flat with about 2 miles to go - it was pretty crazy changing it in the pitch black.
If you post info about the day/time you are going to ride I'm sure you'll find a few people on here who will be happy to ride it with you!
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I would start in Glendora and ride up GMR to GRR to Baldy and then turn around and go back the way you came. It is worth the effort. Most folks park on Glendora Mountain Road near Sierra Madre and ride from there.
I usually park at Starbucks in the town and get about 15 mins of warm up before the climb starts. This is a typical route:
https://www.strava.com/activities/145143244
It is safe to ride alone on weekdays - just be aware that there are no water stops until you get to Baldy. This time of year I doubt you'll need more than 2 bottles to get you there. If you ride during the week, just make sure you start early enough to finish while it is light out. I had to descend once in the dark and got a flat with about 2 miles to go - it was pretty crazy changing it in the pitch black.
If you post info about the day/time you are going to ride I'm sure you'll find a few people on here who will be happy to ride it with you!

Depending on your appetite for climbing you may not wish to do the full route all the way to the lifts. It gets steep! If you're an enthusiastic climber it's a must-do route though. There are basically 3 parts to that route - the bottom to the shack (a ranger maintenance shed about 8 miles up), which marks the end of the first sustained climb. Then there's the village (right at the bottom of that little notch at about 23 miles) and frankly, loads of people turn around at the village. The rule of thumb when going from the bottom to or from the village so you don't get lost is - anytime you have a choice, take the turn that's up hill.

I would encourage you to find a riding partner for this route though. Not because it's dangerous in the social sense, but there is very little to no cell phone reception, so if you get in a bind, you'll be in a bind all by yourself on the side of a mountain that is lightly traveled.

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Depending on your appetite for climbing you may not wish to do the full route all the way to the lifts. It gets steep! If you're an enthusiastic climber it's a must-do route though. There are basically 3 parts to that route - the bottom to the shack (a ranger maintenance shed about 8 miles up), which marks the end of the first sustained climb. Then there's the village (right at the bottom of that little notch at about 23 miles) and frankly, loads of people turn around at the village. The rule of thumb when going from the bottom to or from the village so you don't get lost is - anytime you have a choice, take the turn that's up hill.

I would encourage you to find a riding partner for this route though. Not because it's dangerous in the social sense, but there is very little to no cell phone reception, so if you get in a bind, you'll be in a bind all by yourself on the side of a mountain that is lightly traveled.

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hmmmmm. thanks for the heads up on the cell reception. A good thing to know for sure--

I do like climbing, that's what attracts me to this ride, Toronto is pretty flat, so I go in search of any hills, and then repeat them. On a good day in the city, I'll be lucky if i get 400meters of elevation.

Okay, so I'll just go on a messaging rampage from now until I get there!
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I'm old and slower than you, but if you want a guide on a San Diego ride, I could meet up in Irvine or Tustin and get you to Oceanside. (You will need an ID such as a drivers licence to get through the Marine Corps base on Camp Pendelton, otherwise you will need to ride on the freeway shoulder for about fifteen miles.)

I can average 15 moving (slower if you account for traffic signals) I know the route very well. Sadly, Santa Ana is not very bike friendly, and I try to avoid riding there.

I used to commute by train to Tustin. Now I work mostly from home, but miss the commute and have been wanting to take the train up there and ride home. This would give me a good excuse. I would be free Monday 2/16 to Wednesday 2/18.

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If you do the San Diego ride on the 21st or 22nd I could help tour guide you through Americas Finest City aka San Diego. I could meet you in Oceanside and take you to the Amtrak. It is not hard to navigate but there are some options and workarounds as you go south and some stops are better than others. If you got it alone there are a ton of bikers on the 101 on the weekend and plenty of advice to be had. Make sure you have a passport and ID when approaching the Las Pulgas gate at Pendelton. I always take my sunglasses off before I speak with the guard and have my ID in my hand.
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hmmmmm. thanks for the heads up on the cell reception. A good thing to know for sure--

I do like climbing, that's what attracts me to this ride, Toronto is pretty flat, so I go in search of any hills, and then repeat them. On a good day in the city, I'll be lucky if i get 400meters of elevation.

Okay, so I'll just go on a messaging rampage from now until I get there!
My group is climbing GMR on Saturday. I'll be there. I got fat over the holidays so I'm just trying to not get dropped.
https://www.meetup.com/Bretheren-of-t...nts/219439219/
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My group is climbing GMR on Saturday. I'll be there. I got fat over the holidays so I'm just trying to not get dropped.
https://www.meetup.com/Bretheren-of-t...nts/219439219/
this saturday? i don't fly until sunday!
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If you do the San Diego ride on the 21st or 22nd I could help tour guide you through Americas Finest City aka San Diego. I could meet you in Oceanside and take you to the Amtrak. It is not hard to navigate but there are some options and workarounds as you go south and some stops are better than others. If you got it alone there are a ton of bikers on the 101 on the weekend and plenty of advice to be had. Make sure you have a passport and ID when approaching the Las Pulgas gate at Pendelton. I always take my sunglasses off before I speak with the guard and have my ID in my hand.
Yep. As for Torrey Pines I would suggest the "inside route" for a tourist. Steeper at first, but you still wind up at the same elevation and it's more scenic. Going back down the hill I usually take Gilman to Rose Canyon trail. You could take Torrey Pines into La Jolla, and if you are really hard core, take Via Capri to Mt Solidad - probably the most intense HC climb within SD city limits.
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