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Old 01-07-13, 06:29 PM
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Cleaning up the bike this weekend

This weekend I was cleaning up the bike and was chuckling at my set-up. I'm 6'1" but with long legs and arms with a short torso so this is my set-up. :-)

I keep wondering how I should set-up our next bike. I'm wondering how what my stem length would be with the XL Santana that has a top at least 2 cm longer.
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Paul, we live in York Pa,and ride a Co-Motion Periscope. When the weather gets a bit milder perhaps we can get together for a ride. Paul

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Old 01-21-13, 08:56 PM
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That sounds great car knocker. How long have you had your tandem?
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We have been riding for around 15 years together. First on a Burley Samba and now on the Periscope. 25K on the clock, lots of one and two week tours ,a cross country expedition ,Portland to DC,and last summers month long extravaganza in the Netherlands,Belgium,Luxemburg and Germany.
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This weekend I was cleaning up the bike and was chuckling at my set-up. I'm 6'1" but with long legs and arms with a short torso so this is my set-up. :-) I keep wondering how I should set-up our next bike. I'm wondering how what my stem length would be with the XL Santana that has a top at least 2 cm longer.
Paul; While there is a lot of room for the "to each his own" on bikes, having a short torso could lead you to ideally needing some custom work to get a tall & short bike. If I needed my seat at that height (and I do), I would want a frame about 3-4 inches larger (and I do). Good looking rig though.
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Car Knocker that is some serious travel! I'd be fun to get ride in later this year.
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Nice rig, but by the look of the picture, those cables (to the down-tube) look wicked tight (!)

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ksisler, I'm thinking that too. When I first got this bike I was thing of flat bars and set-up more like my mountain bike. We rode an older Santana XL this past fall and it had a much better seat post extension. I'm wondering what the top tube on older bike is compared to newer ones. I know the stoker top tubes have gotten longer but I think the captain's might be longer too. My road two bikes are retro (82/90's) Merckx the 82 is 62ctc with a 58 tt and other is 63ctc with a 59tt. My inseam would suggest 64 but with the advent long seat posts and riser stems I think a standard Santana XL would work well. Rachel has a good amount of seat post showing so she should be able to ride a larger frame so I think we could ride a standard size Santana but would need a custom Co-Motion.
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Wow Wil Davis that fun how the picture looks. I hadn't noticed how it looked, they actually have plenty of arch but they do look really stretched in this picture. :-)
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ksisler, I'm thinking that too. When I first got this bike I was thing of flat bars and set-up more like my mountain bike. We rode an older Santana XL this past fall and it had a much better seat post extension. I'm wondering what the top tube on older bike is compared to newer ones. I know the stoker top tubes have gotten longer but I think the captain's might be longer too. My road two bikes are retro (82/90's) Merckx the 82 is 62ctc with a 58 tt and other is 63ctc with a 59tt. My inseam would suggest 64 but with the advent long seat posts and riser stems I think a standard Santana XL would work well. Rachel has a good amount of seat post showing so she should be able to ride a larger frame so I think we could ride a standard size Santana but would need a custom Co-Motion.
I think every Santana I have seen are basically long front and rear except one or two customer specific custom built models. I know all of mine are good for stretching out the Captain (As I am tall and of long torso, it is exactly what I need and thus what I bought).

BTW; Having just read yesterday a thread on the Frame Builders forum about a "crack" in seat post of an AL frame I would like to add a caution to always make sure you have a lot of seat post down into the seat tube; not necessarily relying on the "Max Insertion" line to be the factual point. I think it might be worth having a longer one made up if you can't find one (BMX or MTB sources might have them) and still need to ride the current size frame. The other company that makes the 'periscope' bikes might have them listed for sale separate from the full bike... if the diameter is a fit for your S-bike.
Hope that helps /K
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Nice rig, but by the look of the picture, those cables (to the down-tube) look wicked tight (!) - Wil
Wil ; Definately agree with you that Paul J is in trouble with the cable lengths. Only way to recover would be replace all of it; Use a heavy duty single bike rear brake cable for the front brake and new cut-to-need housings from a bulk length. Of course the existing cables are probably trimmed to fit the current 'too short' length, so Paul would also need a new set of tandem length cables to allow the newer 'cut to be right' longer housings to be implemented. Good thing that all of that would not total to much costs (as we spend his money]... and would restore the full turning radius as well as avoiding brake self actuation in turns which can be very scary in traffic and on downhills.
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ksisler, I got a 450 seat post to have a nice margin above the max line. The original post was at the max line so I wasn'r comfortable with that. I'll have to snap a picture to show you the amount of slack to the cables, it really is an optical illusion.:-)
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Cable Concern

Here's a better shot of the cables. :-)
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Here's a better shot of the cables. :-)
Paul J; Agree that it doesn't look as bad from this view... /K
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